I have to manually put in the numbers for it to work. However, when I do connect to the network, if the settings are set for DHCP, numbers are automatically put in...however, they do not work. In order for it to work, I must manually put in the numbers.
Just to be sure...the Belkin is set up as an access point, not a router...right?
What's the model number of the Belkin, so I can take a look at its manual?
When you select "assign IP address automatically", what IP address does the wireless card receive? If it begins with "169.254", then it's being automatically assigned because there's no DHCP server available on the network.
1) When I actually get the connection to work (and even when it mysteriously won't work), it says that the static IP address I have to enter is already in use and that there is a conflict. Even when I changed the IP address of my wired ethernet card, it still says there is a conflict. Any idea of what could be wrong?
Does the apartment complex have a DHCP server, or are you given an IP address, network mask, and default gateway that you have to configure manually?
The answer to your second question will also depend on how IP address assignment works in the complex.
I am not connected to my wireless network at this time, as it will not let me post...should I try to connect to the wireless and then copy and paste what I did previously?
Aha! That makes perfect sense! :-) It may be that the "address conflict" was with the wired adapter. It begins to sound like there's no DHCP server on the apartment network. Note in the previous "ipconfig" output that the 440x's IP address was manually assigned. If the compex has given you only one IP address that you can use, you'll likely need to
disable the Broadcom adapter, then use the same IP address (12.xxx) as a manual assignment on the wireless adapter.
Personal opinion...you'd be better off with a wireless router if the apartment complex doesn't have a DHCP server. Can you confirm that they don't have a DHCP server? It looks more and more like they don't!
OK, I'm thoroughly confused. In your earlier posting, you'd said that the wireless adapter had received an IP address of 192.168.0.105, assigned by DHCP. But in the output of "ipconfig /all", the wireless adapter has
no IP address! Are you sure the wireless adapter's set up to "obtain an IP address automatically"?
The Broadcomm 10/100 adapter has an IP address of 12.xxx. Where'd that come from?
I don't see any "gotcha's" from Belkin's or HomeNetHelp's description of the access point, other than it has only one network port, and that has to go to the wall Ethernet connection for the apartment complex. You'd mentioned that the machine also has an Ethernet adapter in it. I assume it's disconnected, since there's no place to connect it, unless you have a hub that the access point, T1 (Ethernet, actually) cable, and Ethernet card in the PC are all connected to.
Why don't you open a command window (Start/Run/cmd.exe), type
ipconfig /all at the prompt, then copy the output into the clipboard and paste it into a reply? That might help clarify your setup.
I have my land line connected to my Ethernet card now and am not connected to my wireless network. The 12.xxx address is what I have to manually put in for my connection to work. I am not connected to my wireless network at this time, as it will not let me post...should I try to connect to the wireless and then copy and paste what I did previously?
If they don't have a DHCP server, you may want to exchange your access point for a wireless router. That would get rid of the problem of manual assignments.
"I meant that you should plug the WAN side of the router into the wall outlet, and manually configure the WAN side to the 12.159.xxx IP address, using the Ethernet adapter in the laptop connected to one of the LAN ports.
The Ethernet adapter will have to be configured to obtain an IP address automatically in order to get into the router at its LAN IP address, which will by default be 192.168.0.1."
Being a total newbie at this, is there anyway you could explain how to correctly do this? I think I am a little confused. Sorry!
Sure! But first, let me catch up on what's been done.
The apartment complex assigns a single IP address per unit, and not via DHCP. So, if you have two PCs or two adapters, the only way to get the machine onto the Internet is to manually assign the one and only IP address to the adapter currently in use. Since this is a laptop, that suggests that a wireless router would be a better choice than a wireless access point, since that way the laptop can be moved from home to work without having to reconfigure the adapter, if a DHCP server's available in both places.
So the Belkin access point was exchanged for a Netgear MR814v2 router. And now, we're working on getting it, and the laptop, configured correctly.
Now then... :-)
On the back of the MR814, there are five network connectors. The one farthest away from the power connector is where the cable to the apartment complex's network should go. To simplify setup, let's get the Ethernet adapter in your PC working first. You'll need to connect a CAT5 network cable between one of the four LAN connectors grouped together on the MR814 and the connector on the PC which used to plug into the wall outlet.
When the router's cabled that way, change the Broadcom Ethernet adapter in the laptop to "obtain an IP address automatically". Then reboot the laptop. After the reboot, the Broadcomm adapter's IP address will probably be 192.168.0.2, with a gateway address of 192.168.0.1. The gateway address is the router.
Since the Broadcom 10/100 adapter was configured to directly connect to the apartment network, it was being manually assigned the 12.xxx address. That address needs to be assigned to the WAN side of the router. So now you should be able to connect to the router at http://192.168.0.1 and log in using the instructions in Chapter 4 of the Netgear manual.
The setup you want to select is the "Use Static IP Address" one. There, you should enter the 12.xxx IP address, netmask, and gateway addresses you have from the way the 10/100 card in the laptop was set up before. Under DNS, select "Use these DNS servers", and enter the IP addresses for the DNS servers that were listed for the 10/100 card. You shouldn't need to change the router MAC address setting.
You can probably get this done using the "Setup Wizard", described on Pages 4-4 and following in the manual. But it's pretty easy once you see what's going on to do it manually.
That should get you a lot farther along. And wouldn't it be nicer if the apartment complex had just set up a DHCP server so you wouldn't be having to do all this stuff by hand? The good news is that once the Netgear is set up, you won't have to reconfigure the laptop as it's moved from one DHCP environment to another.
Can you send me a private message with the output of "ipconfig /all" from the laptop?
On the front panel of the Netgear, is the "Internet" light on or blinking? Is the "LAN" indicator (1 through 4) that the cable to the laptop's connected illuminated? What's the state of the "Wireless" light on the Netgear?
(edit)If you don't already have the reference manual for the MR814v2, you can download it
here.
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What's the model number of the Belkin, so I can take a look at its manual?
When you select "assign IP address automatically", what IP address does the wireless card receive? If it begins with "169.254", then it's being automatically assigned because there's no DHCP server available on the network.
Jim
jwatt
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Does the apartment complex have a DHCP server, or are you given an IP address, network mask, and default gateway that you have to configure manually?
The answer to your second question will also depend on how IP address assignment works in the complex.
Jim
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*edited*
Message Edited by jpcratty on 12-13-2003 04:05 PM
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Aha! That makes perfect sense! :-) It may be that the "address conflict" was with the wired adapter. It begins to sound like there's no DHCP server on the apartment network. Note in the previous "ipconfig" output that the 440x's IP address was manually assigned. If the compex has given you only one IP address that you can use, you'll likely need to disable the Broadcom adapter, then use the same IP address (12.xxx) as a manual assignment on the wireless adapter.
Personal opinion...you'd be better off with a wireless router if the apartment complex doesn't have a DHCP server. Can you confirm that they don't have a DHCP server? It looks more and more like they don't!
Jim
Message Edited by jimw on 12-13-2003 02:32 PM
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The Broadcomm 10/100 adapter has an IP address of 12.xxx. Where'd that come from?
Jim
Message Edited by jimw on 12-13-2003 02:33 PM
jwatt
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Why don't you open a command window (Start/Run/cmd.exe), type ipconfig /all at the prompt, then copy the output into the clipboard and paste it into a reply? That might help clarify your setup.
Jim
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jpcratty
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My product is an access point - F5D6130
The IP address that comes up is: 192.168.0.105 and says it is assigned by DHCP. Thanks!
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December 13th, 2003 20:00
If they don't have a DHCP server, you may want to exchange your access point for a wireless router. That would get rid of the problem of manual assignments.
Jim
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December 14th, 2003 03:00
"I meant that you should plug the WAN side of the router into the wall outlet, and manually configure the WAN side to the 12.159.xxx IP address, using the Ethernet adapter in the laptop connected to one of the LAN ports.
The Ethernet adapter will have to be configured to obtain an IP address automatically in order to get into the router at its LAN IP address, which will by default be 192.168.0.1."
Being a total newbie at this, is there anyway you could explain how to correctly do this? I think I am a little confused. Sorry!
jwatt
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December 14th, 2003 04:00
The apartment complex assigns a single IP address per unit, and not via DHCP. So, if you have two PCs or two adapters, the only way to get the machine onto the Internet is to manually assign the one and only IP address to the adapter currently in use. Since this is a laptop, that suggests that a wireless router would be a better choice than a wireless access point, since that way the laptop can be moved from home to work without having to reconfigure the adapter, if a DHCP server's available in both places.
So the Belkin access point was exchanged for a Netgear MR814v2 router. And now, we're working on getting it, and the laptop, configured correctly.
Now then... :-)
On the back of the MR814, there are five network connectors. The one farthest away from the power connector is where the cable to the apartment complex's network should go. To simplify setup, let's get the Ethernet adapter in your PC working first. You'll need to connect a CAT5 network cable between one of the four LAN connectors grouped together on the MR814 and the connector on the PC which used to plug into the wall outlet.
When the router's cabled that way, change the Broadcom Ethernet adapter in the laptop to "obtain an IP address automatically". Then reboot the laptop. After the reboot, the Broadcomm adapter's IP address will probably be 192.168.0.2, with a gateway address of 192.168.0.1. The gateway address is the router.
Since the Broadcom 10/100 adapter was configured to directly connect to the apartment network, it was being manually assigned the 12.xxx address. That address needs to be assigned to the WAN side of the router. So now you should be able to connect to the router at http://192.168.0.1 and log in using the instructions in Chapter 4 of the Netgear manual.
The setup you want to select is the "Use Static IP Address" one. There, you should enter the 12.xxx IP address, netmask, and gateway addresses you have from the way the 10/100 card in the laptop was set up before. Under DNS, select "Use these DNS servers", and enter the IP addresses for the DNS servers that were listed for the 10/100 card. You shouldn't need to change the router MAC address setting.
You can probably get this done using the "Setup Wizard", described on Pages 4-4 and following in the manual. But it's pretty easy once you see what's going on to do it manually.
That should get you a lot farther along. And wouldn't it be nicer if the apartment complex had just set up a DHCP server so you wouldn't be having to do all this stuff by hand? The good news is that once the Netgear is set up, you won't have to reconfigure the laptop as it's moved from one DHCP environment to another.
Jim
jpcratty
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I followed all of the steps and I still have no connection. I have no idea why! haha
Thanks!
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December 14th, 2003 05:00
On the front panel of the Netgear, is the "Internet" light on or blinking? Is the "LAN" indicator (1 through 4) that the cable to the laptop's connected illuminated? What's the state of the "Wireless" light on the Netgear?
(edit)If you don't already have the reference manual for the MR814v2, you can download it here.
Jim
Message Edited by jimw on 12-14-2003 10:55 AM