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July 19th, 2011 15:00

Alienware m17x black screen

I've got this problem from the very beginning when I bought this laptop. After several replacement of hardware months ago, I still have this problem. I am tired with the restore back to factory default. Hope someone can help me. 

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July 24th, 2011 18:00

There are a couple of things that that could be.  A buzz or hum or hiss could be a bad ground, it could be a configuration problem, or it could be the way audio levels are adjusted across what you're running.  

If you're running audio through the HDMI cable to the TV, you might try running the audio through a standard set of cables instead.

To see if it's the levels, realize that the loudness of the audio signal can be controlled at multiple spots.  You might want to play with the volume / "output levels" on each and see if it makes the noise better or worse.  For example, on my wife's laptop if she's playing a DVD, there is a volume adjustment for:

 - the DVD player utility

 - Windows volume control (the speaker icon on the bottom right)

 - the volume on the other end (like your TV).

Our best setup when we do this is to use the HDMI cable on her laptop, plug it into our Onkyo TX-SR806 receiver, and have that "pass through" the signal to the TV.  The receiver probably eliminates any noise we might have, but the first time we did this we had to do as I'm suggesting to you:  fiddle with all the volume controls.  When we use my laptop I don't have HDMI so I have to use the second way:  a separate set of audio cables from the video cable.

Also, if you are using any "EQ Effects" on your sound (such as "Techno", "Auditorium", etc.) try turning those off or choosing "Flat EQ" from the options--sometimes the way you've raised and lowered the sliders on the audio settings can distort the sound and bring out the ugly.

If it's a configuration problem, you can use the Sound Options in the Windows Control Panel.  Try manually setting the output levels, signal type, etc.  Each set of the Properties for a Windows 7 audio device has the ability to "test" where it will play tones through the speakers and you can hear it as you raise/lower levels or otherwise change settings.

If it's a bad ground, you can try a different cable, make sure your laptop is plugged into a UPS (because it will filter line noise at the AC level), and if you're really desperate, you can try one of these two:

 -  go to your local Radio Shack or other electronics store and ask for "ferrite rings" (or "ferrite cores").  These small snap-on pieces will wrap a bit of iron around your cable and are supposed to help repel noise issues.

 - purchase a "ground loop isolator", a slightly less cheap piece of equipment the audio passes through before continuing on to its destination.

Hope that helps!

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July 24th, 2011 18:00

That CoolerMaster is the most expensive of them all, so I don't blame you.  But...I don't know how much you paid for your laptop, but you might consider this a good investment:

www.amazon.com/.../ref=sr_1_3

That's the Targus I've used for my laptop, and for hers, for two years.  It's much more portable, doesn't have to have its own power supply, and slips easily into an Orion M17x carrying case with plenty of room to spare.  

Best of all, it's much cheaper than the CoolerMaster!

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July 24th, 2011 18:00

That's a good idea.  I used to think, "My games aren't stressing the processor, they're stressing the graphics", so I'd set Phys-X to CPU.  It didn't really go so well though--shuddery performance in Mirror's Edge when glass would shatter.  So then I tried GPU and things seemed to work better.  Turns out my graphics cards were overqualified for the job. :P  And the CPU needed to not have to handle it.

However, my wife's laptop is just like you're describing.  We set it to "Auto-select" and it chose CPU.  Boy, that would be nice if your black screen problem is that simple!  Let me know if it continues to work.

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July 25th, 2011 17:00

Ok, the driver problem is not exactly solved but improved after I switched to CPU for PhysX. After my laptop running for 12 hours, the black screen would occur once while I playing video. Still big improvement. I bought the cooler you recommended and waiting for it. So let's hope that the problem would go away once I use the cooler.

July 26th, 2011 08:00

That is good news.  The cooler is just a generally good investment because the airflow coming from a replaceable product like that cuts down on the amount of work your laptop's fans have to do to keep your hardware cool.  It extends the life of your very non-replaceable laptop fans by letting them not have to work as hard.

You know, another test that occurred to me after you said that is to try playing a game that allows you to disable hardware physics.  Two I can think of off the top of my head are Mirror's Edge and F.E.A.R.  If you have one of these and can crank all the other settings to max, you might be able to find out if Phys-X is what's giving you fits.  Black screen when disabled means Phys-X isn't the problem.  While enabled...well, then you'll discover a black screen during something like glass breaking, wind effects, or lots of bodies getting tossed ragdoll-style.

And...maybe someone can help me remember this...there's a way to display your SLI on screen while it's running.  The last time I used it, it showed a kind of green band on the screen so you could gauge its performance.  If you have SLI enabled, then see if you can choose this option ("Show SLI Visualizations", I believe it is).  If you see it start to vary dramatically, either rocketing upwards or dropping down, before a black screen, then that might also help you pinpoint it to SLI.

I wonder if you could disable SLI and still telll Phys-X to use GPU #2?  Wouldn't that be interesting...

Ever since I turned off SLI on my wife's laptop and let Phys-X be "automatic", she's not had any problems.  Much as I enjoy SLI, I'm starting to come to the conclusion that it's not really necessary for good gaming--it's like a slight visual improvement that isn't always worth the destabilization risk on a product like a laptop.  My 8700Ms have always been happy, but my 8800GTXs hated it, her 280Ms seem to do better without it, etc.

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July 26th, 2011 13:00

When I enable SLI and use GPU 2 to PhysX, the problem is even worse... I tried before somehow.

I think I would keep this setting until it gets worse. Thank you for your help.

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August 10th, 2011 20:00

My laptop screen still happen to black out randomly while watching video. While the screen hang, the whole unit hang including the keyboard. However, sound of the video still can be heard.

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September 6th, 2011 15:00

I am experiencing the exact same issue it sounds like. I have had a horrible time contacting Dell and Alienware.

M17x -

4G ram

Nvidia Geforce 260m

300G HD

64bit windows 7

Dual Core 2.8Ghz

I tried recommended drivers and went through several installations of windows 7 and factory settings and proper drivers and they caused many programs to run poorly, updated my video driver and removed PhysX, and now everything is running smoothly, minus the black screen of death which happens whenever I am browsing the internet in a chrome window (havent tested other browsers yet) or during programs that utilize the video card.

Have we found any magical cure for this rage inducing issue? It is quite frustrating to have to restart my computer when I can hear the audio, but am locked out of doing anything. This issue has been happening across driver versions, and I have had RAM replaced along with the fan for the video card. Issue has persisted. I have tried doing several of the things through this thread including a cooling pad.

Any other tips from the community or dell? Side question, why would Dell/Alienware not respond to emails? I include the service tag number and they don't respond. Even when I emailed the agent that was helping me directly. I have checked spam filters, they have made no attempt to contact me. I have sent multiple copies so I am sure one has reached them.

Many thanks.

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September 9th, 2011 09:00

Finally some people with the exact same issue as me. I got

M17x

4096mb RAM

Nvidia Geforce 260m (and the 9400m ofcourse)

BIOS Ver A07 1.000PARTTBLZ

64bit windows 7

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz

The sad thing was that my computer worked out "fine" but then I found out "hey, I am supposed to have SLI with 260m drivers, why can't I find them?". So when I got the drivers installed (correctly?) the 260m drivers would dissappear after some time. Yet now I got it fixed after reinstalling the bios and activating them inside the bios setup since they were somehow automaticly disabled there.

Now after getting them running I can run games on much higher graphics and such but I get the same problem as you guys. My screen turns black every now and then, I can hear audio and some times see the cursor. Often happens when gaming but also happend randomly while looking around at youtube for an example. And yeah, I noticed that it gets very heated at the back when I got SLI running.

Yet I have tried to clean the fans, but I haven't bought a cooler since it does not seem to be the main problem. Still, I will get one sooner or later anyhow.

But I would LOVE a fix for this black screen problem cuz I have found NONE. Else I will send it in to reperation but I doubt they will find a stable fix for it. I notice alot of people got this problem, but why is it so hard to find a good fix for it? It would suck to game with my 9400m card, force me to always have graphics on minimum in most games.

Please don't let this thread die D:

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September 9th, 2011 10:00

now im feeling im not alone. This happened to my brand new m18x . it was black out and come along with very noise beeps. That i couldnt start up the window. The engine sounds were running normal, keyboard lights were on. If you're hoping for a fiix come to my thread en.community.dell.com/.../19403837.aspx

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September 9th, 2011 10:00

m18x? why didn't I even know that existed? And I who think my m17x is huge :S. Very well, noisy beeps? It actually happend some times for me when playing league of legends while using the 9400 card. It lasted for just a second and then the game kept running. Yet once I got a major lagg with extreme noise which gave me the black screen. Still I could hear the sound and see my cursor after it was over.

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October 28th, 2011 03:00

Hello,

Same problem here, I just received my new Alienware M17XR3 laptop yesterday and I unfortunately already got a lot of these black screen freezes that are occurring randomly when I'm simply browsing the web or playing a game. Nothing can be done except hard rebooting the system...

My system:

Processor : Intel Core i7 Processor 2760QM (2.40Ghz, 6MB, 4C) 1

's a known problem with Alienware Laptops:

en.community.dell.com/.../19923908.aspx

forum.notebookreview.com/.../588121-alienware-m11x-r3-black-screen-freeze.html

forum.notebookreview.com/.../583855-m17x-r3-black-screen.html

answers.yahoo.com/.../index

I looked on all of the above threads and no solution seem to work for me. Did anybody found a fix for this black screen problem ? Is it a hardware problem with a defectuous Nvidia GTX 560M video card ?

What is your advice for me since I just received the laptop yesterday ? Just get a complete refund and order a new one or giving it to repair ?

Thanks you very much !

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October 28th, 2011 05:00

I haven't found a fix for it yet. Gotta run my laptop on my intergrated card to keep it stable D:. Will try to reinstall windows and all the drivers and make sure I do everything in the correct order. Try out some different video drivers and see which works best. Will come back with results.

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October 28th, 2011 05:00

return it ... buy orginpc(ORIGINAL ALIENWARE) ,sager,asus, emachines has better build quality  nowadays .. and its a low end acer LOL

Its Your call if you are set on alienware look @ video bios updates ect...  dell isnt the only one with this issue  if the name of a system dosent matter to you  then look elsewere .. we can only give our opinion from our experiences and trust me if ends up like my M17X R1 .. and 3 R2's i wonder why i bought a DELL 17R a year later

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October 28th, 2011 06:00

I got a m17x r1.. lots and lots of trouble with it.

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