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Is there a way to use advanced retention to extend retention of replicated backups in Avamar?
IHAC that is looking to take a standard 30 day retention period and extend it to look the chart below in their replicated environment. I am aware of the ability to add time to the retention of replicated backups but not familiar with the ability to basically do it via retention tags. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
PROD RETENTION SETTINGS---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Data Set Details
DB-03272013
Type: Databases |
Protocol: NFS |
Growth Period: Annual |
Growth %: 20.00% |
Full (TB): 3.50
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Weekly |
Monthly |
Annual |
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Copies |
7 |
2 |
1 |
0 |
File-03272013
Type: FileSystem |
Protocol: NFS |
Growth Period: Annual |
Growth %: 20.00% |
Full (TB): 13.40
Daily |
Weekly |
Monthly |
Annual |
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Copies |
7 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
DR RETENTION SETTINGS---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Data Set Details
DB-03272013
Type: Databases |
Protocol: NFS |
Growth Period: Annual |
Growth %: 20.00% |
Full (TB): 3.50
Daily |
Weekly |
Monthly |
Annual |
|
Copies |
7 |
6 |
3 |
1 |
File-03272013
Type: FileSystem |
Protocol: NFS |
Growth Period: Annual |
Growth %: 20.00% |
Full (TB): 13.40
Daily |
Weekly |
Monthly |
Annual |
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Copies |
7 |
6 |
12 |
1 |
VM - FS
Type: VM Image - File System |
Protocol: NFS |
Growth Period: Annual |
Growth %: 20.00% |
Full (TB): 10.00
Daily |
Weekly |
Monthly |
Annual |
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Copies |
7 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
nixonm
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July 8th, 2013 12:00
I was afraid that was going to be the answer, any ETA on Avamar 7?
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ionthegeek
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July 8th, 2013 12:00
Soon.
ionthegeek
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July 8th, 2013 12:00
This is non-trivial in Avamar 6.1 and requires some kind of scripting on the target or configuration of separate replication streams with the appropriate expiredelta.
There are significant improvements to replication management coming in Avamar 7 -- especially with regard to differing retentions on source and target -- so it may be worth waiting for the release.
nixonm
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July 9th, 2013 18:00
Thanks I kinda figured I was going to have to go the scripting route which would be a bit out of scope for the present engagement. The customer may wait for Avamar 7 to implement this change using the built in functionality, while not exactly what they were looking for they may decide it meets their needs. The product release is public tomorrow.
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July 9th, 2013 18:00
At our shop, we accomplish this by making the initial backup with the longer retention settings, which all replicate to the target grid with all their tags and expiration dates, then cron a script on the source grid to expire all backups that are older than 30 days. If you're good with Linux, and good with scripting, look into the delete-snapups utility in the /bin directory...
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JWeinsheimer
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November 8th, 2013 06:00
Can you please expand upon your comments regarding multiple replication tasks and the expire delta option? In my experience running a backup job with the expire delta option doesn't change the retention on backups that have already replicated.
ionthegeek
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November 8th, 2013 07:00
You are absolutely correct. Backups won't be modified by the replicator once they have been written to the target.
Essentially you'd have to set up several replication streams -- one that selected Yearly backups and replicated them with a delta, then one for Monthly backups, possibly with a different delta, Weekly backups with yet another delta, etc.. It would be pretty scary trying to manage all those replication streams in Avamar 6.1. The replication management interface in Avamar 7 would make this much easier.
It wouldn't alter the existing backups but it would allow you to set the appropriate retentions for future replications.
JWeinsheimer
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November 8th, 2013 11:00
Well, setting up multiple streams is the easy part. It's making sure that backups are consistently done in the proper order for differing retention changes.
I've got 7.0 installed in our lab but haven't gotten a change to look at the replication enhancements yet.