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February 7th, 2017 08:00

Dell Dimension 1100 Upgrades?

Hello,

This is my first post here searching for some information... Anyway I know there have been previous topics in the past about this Dinosaur of a computer but nothing in the recent past that I could find and many of the old suggestions on this topic are no longer in stock anywhere. So I have a handful of questions:

1) is there a PCI graphics card out there to purchase that is considered an upgrade from the built in graphics card? Preferably one with HDMI.

  • If not, I was searching online and found a PCI express to PCI adapter on Amazon that should allow me to use a PCIe graphics card in this older PCI slot? But want to know realistically if this would work...

2) I'm planning on using this old PC as a media center so watching for example Live Streaming Tv, Videos that I have on a USB external hard drive, etc. Would the current graphics card be able to handle this if there isn't a viable upgrade?

Any Tips on Upgrading this computer would greatly be appreciated as I'm looking to max out the specs as much as possible. Thanks in advance for your input.

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February 8th, 2017 09:00

Yes, they are a major step up from integrated video of that era (Intel has significantly improved their GPUs since then, but even now nothing they produce is anywhere near as capable as what you get from AMD or nVidia).

There have been rumors of Intel licensing Radeon technology for its future CPUs in recent history -- which is likely in part a reaction to the pending arrival of stiff CPU competition from AMD in the form of the Ryzen platform.

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February 8th, 2017 11:00

Stay away from those.  The 8400 and 8600 chips are very well known for having a fatal design flaw.

www.theinquirer.net/.../all-nvidia-g84-g86s-bad

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February 7th, 2017 09:00

There aren't many recent PCI video cards -- and for the $50-100 one might cost, you can easily buy a much faster used system (or for that matter, dedicate something like a Raspberry Pi to the task).

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February 7th, 2017 10:00

i actually have a Raspberry Pi 2 B+ but can't figure that's more powerful than the Dimension 1100? I've upgraded to 2gb ram, if I leave the graphics card as is will it be powerful enough to run the jobs I mentioned? Also am curious for reference if there is a graphics card upgrade over what's installed... Thanks for your response.

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February 7th, 2017 18:00

You can't use a PCIe card with an adapter but some older Radeon and nVidia based 32-bit PCI cards are still available.

For example,

www.newegg.com/.../Product.aspx

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February 8th, 2017 07:00

Also for what's available on newegg as far as PCI cards go are they that much of an upgrade compared to the original graphics card?

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February 8th, 2017 07:00

Alright weird I had read there was a PCIe to PCI adapter made by startech. Anyway so question if I get a graphics card does that count towards my RAM as well? Bc it says max is 2GB and I bought 2 1GB sticks. If it does is it ok to have a 1GB stick and 1 512MB stick in the RAM slots or do they have to be the same amount?

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February 8th, 2017 10:00

Does the Ryzen use baking powder or baking soda?

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February 8th, 2017 11:00

Ok cool I just found a Nvidia GeForce 8400gs PCI graphics card on eBay that I purchased for $25. Hopefully that'll work well :).

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February 8th, 2017 12:00

Dang to late I suppose... anyway those are all the questions I had. Hopefully the one I bought turns out alright. I had originally read that Sparkle GeForce was good which is why I bought it and $25 was the lowest I found.

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February 8th, 2017 20:00

Stay away from those.  The 8400 and 8600 chips are very well known for having a fatal design flaw.

One nine-year-old article is definitive proof that the long-serving 8400 GPU is flawed?

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February 9th, 2017 04:00

There's far more than just one article - nVidia fought a protracted battle over these, finally settling. For $25 it's worth a gamble - and even seeing one still running is amazing. Most of these have by now succumbed to the design flaw.

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February 10th, 2017 06:00

There are also mulitple manufacturers including Dell, HP, APPLE, Toshiba, Etc that had an "nvidia" recall.  There were 10 models that had this issue.  This also meant that 8400 and 8600 cards, laptops, etc died the desoldering death.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203254


NVIDIA GPU Update for Dell Laptop Owners

Fri. Jul. 25, 2008

Earlier this month, sites like Ars Technica and ZDNet blogged about NVIDIA’s statement regarding a potential issue with some of NVIDIA's Graphics Processing Units (GPUs) used in notebooks. According to NVIDIA, these affected GPUs are experiencing higher than expected failure rates causing video problems. Though this issue is not unique to Dell, some of these affected GPUs are used in certain Dell laptops. That's why I wanted to take a few minutes here to explain the issue and to let customers know what to do next.

The issue is a weak die/packaging material set, which may fail with GPU temperature fluctuations. If your GPU fails, you may see intermittent symptoms during early stages of failure that include:

  • Multiple images
  • Random characters on the screen
  • Lines on the screen
  • No video

Dell recommends that you flash your system BIOS (see links in the table below). Each of these BIOS updates listed in the table below modifies the fan profile to help regulate GPU temperature fluctuations. Note: if you are already experiencing video-related issues like the bullet points above, updating the BIOS will not correct them. Dell will provide support for customers who have experienced GPU failure according to the terms of the system warranty.

These BIOS updates will help reduce the likelihood of GPU issues. New systems are being shipped with the updated BIOS revisions. Here's the list of the latest BIOS versions. Click on the links below to download them.

Update: As Direct2Dell reader foduekid noted, the A09 BIOS update for the XPS M1530 was made available yesterday after I published this blog post. I've updated the table above with the link.

Update 2: I'm getting e-mails and comments that are similar to those of Direct2Dell readers like Customer, fr and barryd. Like I mentioned in one of my responses, this will not be the only blog post on this topic. When I have new details to share, I will share them here. Several of you have expressed concern over potential battery life issues. The reality is that these BIOS updates will not have any noticeable effect on battery life or overall system performance. These updates do not make the cooling fan run all the time. The fan may cycle on more frequently, but when it does, it will run at half or quarter speed.

Update 3: Since Kara Krautter unveiled the Vostro 2510 on the Small Business blog yesterday, we've gotten some questions about it since it uses an NVIDIA GPU. Take a look at some of the comments in the Vostro 2510 Engadget post to see what I'm talking about. The Vostro 2510 will ship with the latest BIOS updates.

If you need help flashing your system BIOS or experience any of the video-related issues listed above, please contact Dell Technical Support. Our teams are committed to working with affected customers to resolve issues on a case-by-case basis.

These BIOS updates will help reduce the likelihood of GPU issues. New systems are being shipped with the updated BIOS revisions. Here's the list of the latest BIOS versions. Click on the links below to download them.

Dell Product Name

BIOS Revision

Date

Update File Name

Inspiron 1420

A09

7/14/08

1420_A09.EXE

Latitude D630

A12

6/22/08

D630_A12.EXE

Latitude D630c

A06

7/11/08

D630CA06.EXE

Dell Precision M2300

A07

7/11/08

M2300A07.EXE

Vostro Notebook 1310

A10

7/10/08

V1310-A10.EXE

Vostro Notebook 1400

A09

7/10/08

1400_A09.EXE

Vostro Notebook 1510

A10

7/10/08

V1510A10.EXE

Vostro Notebook 1710

A07

7/10/08

V1710A07.EXE

XPS M1330

A12

7/9/08

M1330A12.EXE

XPS M1530

A09

7/25/08

1530_A09.EXE

 


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February 10th, 2017 19:00

For $25 it's worth a gamble - and even seeing one still running is amazing.

Most of these have by now succumbed to the design flaw.

Are there figures that back that up or just hearsay?

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February 11th, 2017 08:00

If you do a google search for that issue, you'll find quite statistics that say somewhere around 30-40% of these failed within the first 3-4 years.  nVidia settled -- and while it's difficult now to distinguish early from normal failure - these are on the order of 10 years old -- the engineering analysis that was done points to a defect in the material chosen to construct the chips.  It was not resistant enough to thermal cycling.  At any rate, it's a moot point for most now -- time has made these more or less obsolete other than to owners of older systems (PCI video cards have mostly disappeared from the market -- there haven't been any new ones released in years).

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