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September 1st, 2009 11:00

nVidia GeForce GTX 260 1792MB

I was curious if anybody know the brand and specs of card that's going into the new XPS 435.  I see they've replaced the radeon 4870 selection on the 435.

Thanks

Ace

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September 1st, 2009 11:00

What ever it is it wil be Dell branded. Dell contract with all the major players to make their cards and then generically brands them. The have been known in the past to use EVGA and XFX a lot. The card will OEM and while it will comform to the general card specs it will be tweeked, usually downward to suit the Dell design

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September 1st, 2009 13:00

Hi Ace35 and welcome to DELL Forums.

It seems that the nVidia GeForce GTX 260 is not an OEM product, according to nVidia web page. The GT 220 and GTS 240 offered for the XPS 435 are OEM. IMO they are replacement cards for the top end Radeon that DELL offered for the 435 because, according to a couple of posts here in the Forums, the cards were to blame for BSOD so many people are complaining about.

Now the GTX 260 needs a 500 W PSU and the XPS has a 475 W unit. A lot of people here would say that DELL understates its PSU and nVidia overstates its cards. Also what Davet50 said holds true, DELL will tweak the cards to fit its sys.

GeForce web page. Look for your card and click specs.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_family.html

Hope it helps.

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September 1st, 2009 14:00

That still does not mean the card is not OEM. Remember Nvidia does not make card only specifications. It is up to 3rd party manufacturers to implement them as they see fit.

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September 1st, 2009 17:00

That is true. I am only showing Ace where to find specs about the card since that was one of his question, and that such a card is not offered as OEM by NVIDIA. I am also affirming your statement that DELL will surely fit the card to DELL specs.

Peace.

Edit: Do you think that DELL is offering the GTX 260 as a double card into the XPS 435. Since its memory is 1792MB and all the specs I found is only 896 MB. SEE SPECS by DELL and NVIDIA.

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http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_260_us.html

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September 1st, 2009 17:00

Now that is interesting. That looks exactly like my retail card... Is Dell changing their tune????

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September 2nd, 2009 07:00

Edit: Do you think that DELL is offering the GTX 260 as a double card into the XPS 435. Since its memory is 1792MB and all the specs I found is only 896 MB. SEE SPECS by DELL and NVIDIA.

Thanks for all the info. I had been on the NVIDIA site, but didn't see anything about the 260 card with 1792MB of memory.  I too was curious if it was a dual card, or it was a new custom card.  I'm curious how this extra memory compared to the 4870 (with 1GB) that was offered before the change to NVIDIA.

Ace

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September 2nd, 2009 08:00

No the 260 is a single card and it can come with many differnt variations of onboard ram. The more ram on the card the less it has to depend on system ram and virtual ram to do the processing. Remember Nvidia only provides the basic specs. As to memory size the vendors will add their own.

Look HERE on the EVGA site. Scroll down and look at all the different configurations they offer for the GTX 260.

So once again this is a Dell spec'd card where they spec'd the amount of onboard memory.

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September 2nd, 2009 14:00

Yep! EVGA got the 1792 MB and a couple more with 896 MB, of course all of them with different GPU clock speed and memory clock speed.

Thank you.

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September 2nd, 2009 15:00

Is there any way to confirm if the card offered from Dell is the Core 216 edition? 

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September 2nd, 2009 15:00

Since this is a card that is factory installed more than likely not. 

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September 2nd, 2009 15:00

the best version of this card is the Core 216 editions. The thinner chip makes the card run cooler..They get better ratings too.

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September 3rd, 2009 08:00

Hmmm....is there anyway for me to find out the exact spec on the card offered from Dell?  Cuz, if it's a watered down version of this http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5214246&CatId=28 then I'm not sure if it's worth the extra money and may be worth looking at the regular Studio XPS with the GTS 240 for $300 less.

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September 3rd, 2009 10:00

Generally that answer is no as they will put in what ever is in inventory at the build time. If you can afford the card I would recommend getting the cheapest build and then add in your own card. I usually do this myself.

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September 3rd, 2009 11:00

This has crossed my mind.  However, I'm worried about the 500 watt requirement for most decent (4870 and gtx260) cards you'd buy off the shelf.  Like mentioned earlier, Dell can customize their cards to work with their power supply.  If I were to buy the video card from dell, at least I know it will work with the build.

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September 6th, 2009 21:00

I can shade a little light on the subject:

A big chunk of the transistors are being utilized for the shader cores. Look at the shader cores in the 200 series:

    • 240 of them on the GeForce GTX 275/280/285.
    • 216 cores on the GeForce GTX 260 Core 216
    • 192 cores on the GeForce GTX 260

Sitting in-between sets of shader cores for example now is an integration of local cache memory (16k software managed cache). It is sitting in-between a block with 8 shader cores. So simply put, what helps here is that the data doesn't have to leave the GPU anymore to crunch it's data normally in the regular frame buffer memory. This is a significant improvement in the architecture.  The new GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 has 216 Shader Processors.

Inside that GPU, the shaders cores are clustered in three blocks of eight shader processors. We know that there are ten clusters totaling up towards the 240 shader units for the GeForce GTX 280/285.  So the GTX 280/285 has 10x3x8= 240 Shader Processors. Therefore a standard GTX 260 has to have 8x3x8= 192.

The regular GeForce GTX 260 has got to have 8 shader clusters and thus 192 shader processors which you can utilize for gaming ... or computing other stuff.

What does this mean? Well:

    • one shader cluster has 3x8=24 shader processors
    • There are nine out of ten cluster enabled | 24x9=216 cores.

So the entire GTX 200 series is all one and the same chip. This new Core 216 GPU is in fact a full fetched GTX 280 core with one cluster laser-cut and deactivated. So the extra 24 shader processor cores will give the SP216 versions of this product a little more bite.

Hope that kind of helps out on knowing what takes place in the GTX 260 SP216. And if that's what Dell has as for the GTX 260 1792 MB which I am sure it is, well who ever gets one is actually getting a GTX 280 with one cluster deactivated. Very powerful Video Card which you can see.

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