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Optiplex Gx270 problem
I'm having a very interesting problem with this unit. When we turn the PC on it appears to be on but we get nothing on the screen. No error messages, NOTHING!!! It takes about 3 to 5 manual shutdowns for us to get the PC going. I have done the following and I'm still having this problem:
- Re-install windows xp pro with SP3
- Updated BIOS to A07 (I think this is the lastest)
- Update the display updater driver to the latest
- Updated the network card drivers to the latest
- Updated the Intel chipset to the latest
I don't know what else to upgrade as this doesn't seem to be a windows application problem. This only occurs on a cold boot. I have also run the Dell utility program that comes with the PC and had it run a complete test on all the HW devices and the program didn't find any errors. Any ideas? Any help/info would be appreciated.
stefanrp97
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June 30th, 2008 23:00
tr4
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June 30th, 2008 23:00
x_lab rat
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July 1st, 2008 16:00
See above about bad capacitors. They should be perfectly round with flat tops and not oozing anything. The battery might also be a consideration.
During the earliest stages of capacitor failure, it takes exposing them to power a couple times before they will hold a charge. Diagnostics are of little use on startup issues, as the diag can only see the problem when it's happening, and you can only run the diag when it isn't.
Updates will never solve an operational problem with an otherwise-stable system that just suddenly developed a problem. If anything, it is inadvisable to update unless it solves problems like new hardware recognition, or there is a specific feature in the update that you know you need. In other words, if it was working before and you didn't change anything, updating won't help.
mriveragleasonc
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July 1st, 2008 17:00
tr4
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July 1st, 2008 21:00
x_lab rat
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July 1st, 2008 22:00
OK, that's a datapoint. Between the XP logo and the desktop, Windows is loading drivers, required for any display beyond 640x480, the floppy boot screen. You may be looking at a display adapter failure.
Remove adapter, revert to the chassis monitor connector, F2 at startup and under 'onboard devices' select onboard video, see if that changes anything. If it does, replace video card. If you're already using onboard video, the odds are narrowing towards defective motherboard.
tr4
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July 2nd, 2008 14:00
mriveragleasonc
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July 2nd, 2008 14:00
mriveragleasonc
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July 2nd, 2008 14:00
x_lab rat, thanks for your reply. But this morning I didn't even get the windows logo. After I did a cold re-boot for about 10 times I was able to get windows going. The interesting thing is that when I press the power on button the computer is on but I don't get anything on the screen. The screen is just blank! I have even left the PC on for like 10 minutes and I still don't get anything. Evntually I got a message about system failure at checkpoint [Emem] because you booted the system too many times message. But after this I was able to get the windows up and running.
Another interesting thing I forgot to mention is that the PC could be up and running the whole day and it would shutdown for no reason at all. But the interesting thing is that it doesn't do this everyday, so is very difficult to ping point the exact cause of the problem.
This PC is driving me insane! Thanks for your help and information.
mriveragleasonc
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July 2nd, 2008 15:00
Well, when I turn on the PC the power suplpy is on, the fans are on, the HD is on, the monitor is on but I don't see anything on the screen. The screen remains blank.
Another interesting thing that I have notice is that after I'm able to turn the PC on and sign on to windows I turn the PC off and leave it off for about 20 minutes. After this time I go ahead and turn it back on and the PC comes on with out any problems! This is really weird.
mriveragleasonc
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July 2nd, 2008 15:00
x_lab rat
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July 2nd, 2008 15:00
mriveragleasonc
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July 2nd, 2008 16:00
I have to wait until tomorrow morning to test it again. I'll check the light tomorrow.
Everything comes integrated on the MB and the PC doesn't have any more external cards.
x_lab rat
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July 2nd, 2008 16:00
HD running confirms the main power rails, 5V and 12V. Probably not power supply. Monitor on confirms that the display card is generating vertical sync, so it's not 'dead'.
You STILL did not say if the power light is green or yellow when it's malfunctioning, or what the ABCD lights in the back register, or whether you are using a plug-in display adapter or the onboard one. If power light is yellow, best chance motherboard is bad. If you are using onboard display, best chance motherboard is bad.
If you are using a plug-in display adapter, unplug and replug it, or substitute a known-good one, or substitute onboard video. You have to gather data before you can analyze it. There is never one pat answer to these kinds of problems.
x_lab rat
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July 2nd, 2008 18:00
You have the primary power rails working (HD works). You have onboard video which does not produce a display. From just this evidence, confidence is roughly 87% that you have a motherboard failure. It may be more practical to replace the entire system than to spend the money replacing the motherboard.
Alas, you only missed the GX270 warranty extension by 7 months. Prior to January 2008, Dell would replace GX270 motherboards out of warranty.