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August 21st, 2010 06:00

Dell INSPIRON R15 N5010 HDD Toshiba ULTRA DMA CRC COUNT 1219638

My new Inspiron received 4 days ago is showing a extreme very hig number of CRC error count in S.M.A.R.T. (Hd Tune Pro 4.5).  I had run the Dell PC Tools Check and showed nothing. Had run Windows(W 7 64 bits) Disk Checks and showed nothing.  BIOS is Updated last level A07, all aplicable driversand firmwares  installed from DELL site, all Windows Update done. Any Ideas?  It is OK or NOT?

 

1) Info from HD Tune Pro 4.5

HD Tune Pro: TOSHIBA MK5065GSX        Health

ID                                  Current  Worst    ThresholdData       Status  
(01) Raw Read Error Rate            100      100      50       0          ok      
(03) Spin Up Time                   100      100      1        1970       ok      
(05) Reallocated Sector Count       100      100      50       0          ok      
(09) Power On Hours Count           100      100      0        2750       ok      
(0C) Power Cycle Count              100      100      0        14         ok      
(BF) G-sense Error Rate             100      100      0        0          ok      
(C0) Unsafe Shutdown Count          100      100      0        1          ok      
(C1) Load Cycle Count               100      100      0        314        ok      
(C2) Temperature                    100      100      0        1572902    ok      
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count      100      100      0        1219638    warning 
(C8) Write Error Rate               100      100      0        1925377    ok      
(F0) Head Flying Hours              100      100      0        2105       ok      
(F1) (unknown attribute)            100      100      0        320862292  ok      
(F2) (unknown attribute)            100      100      0        662993565  ok      
(FE) (unknown attribute)            100      100      0        0          ok      

Health Status         : warning

2) Info from PC Wizard 2010:

Model : TOSHIBA MK5065GSX
Serial Number : <ADMIN NOTE:Serial no.removed per privacy policy>
Revision (Firmware) : GJ002D
Serial ATA : Yes
Serial ATA Version : 2.0  -  (SATA-300)
Support : ATA8-ACS
Size : 500 GB
Solid State Disk (SSD) : No
Format : 2,5"
Speed : 5400 rpm
Cache : 8 192 KB
Multiple Sector : 16
IORDY : Yes
LBA Mode : Yes
DMA Mode : Yes
NCQ Mode : Yes
SCT Mode : Yes
DCO Mode : Yes
NV Cache : No
TRIM Mode : No
TCQ Mode : No
CFA Mode : No
CFA Power Mode : No
NV Cache Power Mode : No
Volatile Write Cache : Yes   -   Enabled
SETMAX : Yes   -   Disabled
Multiword DMA Mode : 2
PIO Mode : PIO 4
UDMA Mode max. : 5 (ATA-100)
UDMA Mode Enabled : 5 (ATA-100)
Transport : Serial ATA8-AST
SMART : Yes   -   Enabled
SMART Self-Test : Yes
AAM : Yes   -   Disabled
Write Cache : Yes
Streaming Mode : No
Power Management : Yes
APM Mode : Yes   -   Enabled
APM Level : 128
PUIS Mode : No
Security Mode : No
Trusted Computing : No
48-bit Address : Yes
Cylinders : 969021
Heads : 16
Sectors per Track : 63

 SMART Information Disk TOSHIBA MK5065GSX : 
Health : 100% (estimated)
Performance : 100% (estimated)
Reallocated Sectors : 0
Pending Sectors : 0
Uncorrectable Sectors : 0
Total Boot : 14 x
PowerOn Count : 2738 hours
Failure Prediction Supported : No
Threshold Exceeding : No
 
Raw Read Error Rate (01) : 00000 (Threshold : 050   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
Spin Up Time (03) : 007B2 (Threshold : 001   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
Reallocated Sector Count (05) : 00000 (Threshold : 050   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
Power On Hours Count (09) : 00AB2 (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
Power Cycle Count (0C) : 0000E (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
 (BF) : 00000 (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
Power-Off Retract Count (C0) : 00001 (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
Load/Unload Cycle Count (C1) : 0013A (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
Temperature (C2) : 80026 (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate (C7) : 298AF (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)   (?????????????????)
Write Error Rate (C8) : D5955 (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
Head Flying Hours (F0) : 00839 (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
 (F1) : F2E19 (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
 (F2) : 2E039 (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)
 (FE) : 00000 (Threshold : 000   -   Worst : 100   -   Max : 100)

 

 

September 5th, 2010 08:00

 

Conforme combinado com o técnico da Dell hoje a Tarde, passei novamente os testes de

diagnostico, desta vez utilizando o CD de Utilities ao invés dos testes armazenados do HD.

 

Todos os testes iniciais foram executados por completo. Apos o término dos mesmos,

excutamos os testes adicionais relativos a Disco. Os resultados dos testes, que duraram 3

horas e 45 minutos foram os seguintes:

1) Confidence check: cancelei apos mais de 1/2 hora

2) Device Quick Check: OK

3) Drive Self Test Longo: cancelado

4) Drive Self Test Short: OK

5) SATA READ TEST: Cancelado

6) SEEK test: Cancelado apos algum tempo

7) Teste de SMART: OK (*)

8) Teste START: OK

9) Teste STOP: OK

10) Teste VERIFY: Executado por completo: OK

 

(*) Gostaria de saber, com certeza, se este teste lê os dados de SMART e verifica se os

mesmos estão dentro do limites corretos ou apenas verifica se o SMART esta funcionado ou

implementado.

 

Em resumo, as ferramentas da DELL não acusaram nenhum erro no Computador Dell Inspiron

N5010 (Service TAG <ADMIN NOTE:Service tag removed privacy policy>) nem nos discos.

 

O programa HdTunePro, atualizado para a versão 4.6, que indicava antes dos testes o valor

do "Ultra DMA CRC Error Count" de 4.600.000 erros, apos o teste mostrava uma contagem de

5.600.000, ou seja um aumento de 1.000.000 de erros, ocorridos durante os testes.  

 

Outro programa de SMART, o HDDSCAN  tambem mostrou os mesmos erros e alertas no ULTRA DMA CRC Error Count.

 

Sabe-se que este tipo de erro indica problemas no Cabo de Interface (mau contato ou cabo defeituoso). Isto exigiria a retirada do disco do Notebook e

a substituição do cabo. Pergunto: isto poderia provocar algum risco de estragar os dados armazenados na unidade?.

 

Outra duvida seria quanto a outros campos do SMART que estao mostrando valores absurdos, como o Power On Hours Count   de 2750 (numero de horas de power on 2750 hs), pois o valor indicado esta absurdamente alto para um laptop com menos de 1 mes de uso.  Tambem o Head Flying Hours de 2105 hs esta absurdo!   Outro absurdo e o numero de Write Error Rate   1925377. Em resumo, esta parecendo que o SMART do disco esta com problemas. 

 

Valore atualizados do SMART para o dia de hoje (05/09/2010):

 

HD Tune Pro: TOSHIBA MK5065GSX        Health

 

ID                                  Current  Worst    ThresholdData        Status   

(01) Raw Read Error Rate            100      100      50       0           ok       

(03) Spin Up Time                   100      100      1        1975        ok       

(05) Reallocated Sector Count       100      100      50       0           ok       

(09) Power On Hours Count           100      100      0        12678       ok       

(0C) Power Cycle Count              100      100      0        52          ok       

(BF) G-sense Error Rate             100      100      0        2           ok       

(C0) Unsafe Shutdown Count          100      100      0        1           ok       

(C1) Load Cycle Count               100      100      0        734         ok       

(C2) Temperature                    100      100      0        1572903     ok       

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count      100      100      0        5755058     warning  

(C8) Write Error Rate               100      100      0        6519140     ok       

(F0) Head Flying Hours              100      100      0        7779        ok       

(F1) LifeTime Writes from Host      100      100      0        1166537917  ok       

(F2) LifeTime Reads from Host       100      100      0        -975551472  ok       

(FE) (unknown attribute)            100      100      0        0           ok       

 

Health Status         : warning

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 Message

March 1st, 2011 20:00

i have the same problem!! what is it????

5 Posts

November 30th, 2011 01:00

I got the very same issue with my Latitude. Dell Service replaced the HDD, and the SATA cable, but the problem is still there.

November 30th, 2011 02:00

This is Incredible! Replaced the HDD and the SATA cable and the problem remains? What now? Here DELL refuse to do anything after I had reported this problem several times along a full year.  And now the warranty period is over.   My Laptop is still working but the problem remains the same. The performance is slow but  the laptop still work, and there are several freezing/locking  that I can not explain.   Thanks for your comment.

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March 24th, 2012 06:00

hi Pascal, let me say you are not alone. I have the same laptop and i have the same problem

the max life of one of my laptops Thoshiba HDD was 4 months and min life was 22 days, I got my HDD replaced like 4 times in 10 months

Dell has got no solution to this problem

Got the motherboard replaced already along with HDD and the problem persists

I found that my Segate external HDD is way better than the Thoshiba  internal drive, it stays cool and importantly the Ultra DMA CRC errors

are zero!

I was wondering how many laptops out their has this problem with internal HDD's.( might be a few notice it ! )

I have now said to myself finally, that if this 4th HDD crashes on me again i will completely discard it and use an external HDD to boot the laptop,

sounds awkward but better than Dells no solution.

 

March 24th, 2012 10:00

Hi,

Thanks for your  message, it is good to know that we are not alone. My Dell N5010  laptop is alive yet, but the warranty period is over, it has almost 2 years, the CRC continues to grow, and is more than 600,000,000 records now, but the unit is working. Dell refused to do anithing with it, because the CRC error does not appears in the basic standalone CD Drivers and Utilities test that came with the laptop. The problem appears in HD-Tune, HD-Sentinel, and even in the Dell Support Center application PC Checkup. But, the Dell support team here in Brazil does not believe in their own software!  

I have another Dell Inspiron 15R N5110 with Seagate HD wich is OK.

Regards

Pascal 

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