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February 25th, 2018 14:00

390, CPU upgrades?

Am I able to install an i5-2500 into my Optiplex 390?  It currently has an i3-2120 and I'm just looking for budget upgrade options to increase performance in gaming. It's currently paired with a AMD Radeon HD 6870 which I plan on upgrading to Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti. 

Thanks!

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June 7th, 2018 05:00

Turbo Boost is specifically power limited by INTEL.  Its marketing.

You NEVER get full speed when all the cores are running.

When turbo boost is running it ONLY boosts 1 core.

Intel® Turbo Boost  depends upon a number of factors including, but not limited to, the following:

Type of workload
Number of active cores
Estimated current consumption
Estimated power consumption
Processor temperature

Intel® Turbo Boost allows the processor to operate ONE CORE at a power level for short durations

(A few seconds OR LESS)

You can monitor this with the Gadget

https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-power-gadget-20

 

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September 19th, 2018 02:00

Has nothing to do with new features. The SOCKET keeps changing because INTEL wants to sell more and more memory and cpus and chipsets.

https://i.dell.com/sites/csdocuments/Shared-Content_data-Sheets_Documents/en/Optiplex-390-Technical-Guidebook-101311.pdf

Intel® Core™ i7-3770S

Intel® Core™ i5 2400
 
         LGA 1155
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

390 does have a bios update with new microcode.

You cant go directly to the latest from A00 however

Fixes & Enhancements

Fixes
- Resolved add-on card issues.
- Addressed HDD password issue.

Enhancements
- Updated CPU Microcode.

Fixes & Enhancements

Fixes:
- Update to the latest CPU microcode to address CVE-2017-5715.  AUG 29, 2018
 
 

https://downloads.dell.com/FOLDER01799737M/1/O390-A11.exe

A14,A14 07 Aug 2018     7:40:42 AM
A10,A10 20 Mar 2013      7:27:07 AM
A09,A09 11 Sep 2012      6:41:59 AM
A07,A07 31 May 2012      8:56:26 AM
A05,A05 14 Feb 2012       8:44:13 AM
A03,A03 14 Dec 2011       8:46:35 AM
 
 

Intel® Core™ i7-3770S Processor

Intel® Core™ i7-3770K Processor

Intel® Core™ i7-3770 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3570S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3570T Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3570 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3550S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3550 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3475S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3470T Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3470S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3470 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3450S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3450 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3350P Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3340S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3340 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3330S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-3330 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-3250T Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-3250 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-3245 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-3240T Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-3240 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-3225 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-3220T Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-3220 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-3210 Processor

Intel® Core™ i7-2600S Processor

Intel® Core™ i7-2600K Processor

Intel® Core™ i7-2600 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2550K Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2500T Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2500S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2500K Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2500 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2450P Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2405S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2400S Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2400 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2390T Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2380P Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2320 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2310 Processor

Intel® Core™ i5-2300 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-2130 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-2125 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-2120T Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-2120 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-2105 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-2102 Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-2100T Processor

Intel® Core™ i3-2100 Processor

 
 

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February 11th, 2019 05:00

The 390 is a crippled system with ATA only.  AHCI is not an option. There is a 2018 issued bios patch for Spectre / Meltdown.

The 2011 Optiplex 390 was only validated with the following i3/i5 CPUs =

CPU socket type: LGA 1155

MHF7R i5-2400 Sandy Bridge, 3.10GHz, 6MB, 95w, 4C, D2
950R3 i3-2130 Sandy Bridge, 3.40GHz, 3MB, 65w, 2C, Q0
972H5 i3-2120 Sandy Bridge, 3.30GHz, 3MB, 65w, Q0
5MH9T i3-2100 Sandy Bridge, 3.10GHz, 3MB, 65w Q0

Dell does not support any cpu other than the one that came with the system.

The 390 has an Intel H61 Express chipset which is different from the 790 and 990.

Whether or not the I7's work is up for debate.

If you DO NOT HAVE A TOWER any unit other than the "S" models will likely break the voltage regulator on the motherboard.  The smaller units do not have sufficient power.

So the i5-3340S - CM8063701387400 / BX80637I53340S  might work as would the

i7-2600 - CM8062300834302 / CM8062300834303 / BX80623I72600 / BXC80623I72600
i7-2600K - CM8062300833906 / CM8062300833908 / BX80623I72600K / BXC80623I72600K
i7-3770 - CM8063701211600 / BX80637I73770 / BXC80637I73770
i7-3770K - CM8063701211700 / CM8063701211701 / BX80637I73770K / BXC80637I73770K
i7-3770S - CM8063701211900 / CM8063701211901 / BX80637I73770S

This must be done via XP or 7 WITH NO ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE INSTALLED.

Disabling does not work it must be removed and the system rebooted.  Then RUN BIOS UPDATE as Administrator.

Failing to heed this warning can lead to Bricked motherboard.

http://downloads.dell.com/published/pages/optiplex-390.html

You cannot jump from A00 to A14 in bios so which depends on how old it is.

DescriptionVersionDownload
Dell OptiPlex 390 System BIOS
This package contains the BIOS update for Dell OptiPlex 390 that runs Windows and DOS operating systems. BIOS is a firmware that is embedded on a small memory chip on the computer's system board. It controls the keyboard, monitor, disk drives and other devices. This package contains update for CPU microcode to address Intel Security Advisory INTEL-SA-00115 (CVE-2018-3639 and CVE-2018-3640). The package also updates to the latest CPU microcode to address CVE-2017-5715.More details
A14
Dell OptiPlex 390 System BIOS
This package provides the BIOS Update on the Dell OptiPlex 390 running the following Operating system: Windows and DOS.More details
A11
Dell Optiplex 390 System BIOS
This package provides the BIOS Update on the Dell OptiPlex 390 running the following Operating system: Windows and DOS.More details
A10
Optiplex 390 System Bios
OptiPlex 390 System BIOSMore details
A09
DELL,DSK PROG,BIOS,FWH,390,A07,A07
OptiPlex 390 System BIOSMore details
 
DELL,DSK PROG,BIOS,FWH,390,,A05
OptiPlex 390 System BIOSMore details
 
DELL,DSK PROG,BIOS,FWH,390,A03,A03
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A03
Dell OptiPlex 390 System BIOS, A02
This package contains the Dell system BIOS update for OptiPlex 390 system. BIOS is a firmware that is embedded on a small memory chip on the computer's system board. It controls the keyboard, monitor, disk drives and other devices. This update includes the latest CPU microcode, Intel Management Engine Firmware and fixes the issue where the hard drive doesn’t get detected.More details
A02
Dell OptiPlex 390 System BIOS, A01
OptiPlex 390 system BIOSMore details
A01
Dell OptiPlex 390 System BIOS, A00
OptiPlex 390 system BIOSMore details
A00

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May 13th, 2019 11:00

16 gigs is not an option if you only have 2 Ram Slots.

The 990 has 4 ram slots and allows 16 gigs.

https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/Dell/optiplex-990-desktop

SFF is 8 Gigs Max end of storySFF is 8 Gigs Max end of story

8 Gig Dimms are NEVER an option.

Saying you can get to 16 gigs without restriction is misleading at best and a pre meditated lie at worst.

The ram must be LOW Density INTEL compatible and not be ECC or Registered or Buffered or Quad Rank etc.

 

 

 

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February 26th, 2018 02:00

 

It should be fine with the i5-2500. The 390 has an Intel H61 Express chipset which indicates that it should be compatible:

http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel_(chipsets)/H61_Express.html

However, Dell only ever shipped the 390 with CPU models up to the i5-2400 so it was never validated and can't be 100% guaranteed to work. If you are going to upgrade, I would advise updating the system BIOS beforehand. 

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March 3rd, 2018 20:00

Should work fine.

April 26th, 2018 15:00

If you havent gotten a DEFINITE answer, i just ordered a 2500 for my 390, should be here in a week. 

 

April 30th, 2018 19:00

Hi mate, I'm also trying to get an i5 2500 for my Optiplex 390. Can
you explain a bit further what does "flaky" mean? Can you use your pc normally after the CPU swap?

Btw, in also wondering if I can buy a i7 2600 and boot normally as it is not stated in the official manual.

April 30th, 2018 19:00

Got the CPU today, installed it and it was acting kind of flaky, i did a backup of my hard drive, reformatted, and its been running great all day!

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May 4th, 2018 21:00


@jack123hellowrote:
Hi mate, I'm also trying to get an i5 2500 for my Optiplex 390. Can
you explain a bit further what does "flaky" mean? Can you use your pc normally after the CPU swap?

Btw, in also wondering if I can buy a i7 2600 and boot normally as it is not stated in the official manual.


I do know someone ran it on user benchmark so it's very likely I do know that LGA 1155 and LGA1150 motherboards are quite flexible and take literally any CPU that uses the same socket.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/1469023

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May 5th, 2018 13:00

"Flaky" probably meant hesitant. Bandaidbrand indicated computer is running great after reformat and reload.

My Dell Tech Guide tells me every processor my computer can take at the time of print. Downloaded as .pdf and search terms can be used. Here's a link for your 390: http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/04/shared-content~data-sheets~en/documents~optiplex-390-technical-guidebook-101311.pdf.

I see jack123hello's reply has "official manual" stated. I'm still leaving the link for whoever wants it. Tech guides for other models can be Googled or go to Dell.com.

June 6th, 2018 22:00

I have recently received my i5-2500 and it works well out of the box without any reinstall of windows or driver update. However, I found out that the CPU isn't able to boost up to 3.7GHz on single core load as well as 3.4GHz on all core load. I believe this has to do with the Dell mobo or its VRM limitation.

June 7th, 2018 07:00

Thank you for your reply.

 

When running Cinebench r15:

In single-core workload, the CPU frequency hovers around 3.4-3.6 GHz with a few milliseconds of rated 3.7GHz(Turbo-boost speed), with max temp. at 66C and max package power at 45W.

In multi-core workload, the frequency stays at 3.4GHz all the time, with max temp. at 77C and max package power at 55W.

 

According to CPU-Z, the base clock of CPU is at 99.76MHz which is weird and the multiplier seldom goes to 37(i.e. 3.7GHz). I understand how turbo-boost 2.0 works, but I have no idea what caused 3.7GHz to only last for 2ms or so given that I have enough temperature headroom for turbo-boost to work.

July 19th, 2018 14:00

Yes, technically from Dell there are a limited number of CPUs available for use with the Optiplex 390. HOWEVER, we know better. I have seen sites indicate that a Core i5-2500 works just fine. And here, you will see someone had a Core i7 2600 running. I found 2 people who ran that CPU at userbenchmark.com, but none faster. Can anyone find one better? The challenge has been made!

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/1469023

Optiplex 390 core i7 2600.png

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September 17th, 2018 13:00

I'm also thinkning about upgrading my CPU. I saw that Intel® H61 Express Chipset supports 3rd gen CPUs.

Will the Optiplex 390 work with: i5-3570T or i5-3570S?

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