Hello, thank you for your answer, no the 1050 will be too fair, at worst 1660 super could be suitable, it is for "CAD / CAM" I would have preferred to ensure the blow with something solid like the 20xx series
All 3 suggested GPU cards are a no - RTX 2070 SUPER, RTX 3060 ti, and the GTX 1660 SUPER. They are all too long. Only 8in. max length space for GPU cards in a 7070 MT.
The Optiplex 7070 is a business machine, not built for gaming. That's why the cards it can take are so minimal.
With that in mind, I'd never mind about PSU's (power supplies).
Instead, look at the Optiplex 7080 MT. It can take the 2070 SUPER or the 1660 SJPER.
What also came to mind is Dell's G5 and XPS. Both are meant for gaming. Any of the machines I mentioned should meet your requirements. Also, the specification sheets for all 3 models can be Googled.
Like with Optiplex, there's many XPS models. So may be consider the Optiplex 7080 or the G5. Somebody more familiar with XPS's can always chime in too.
"Also, the specification sheets for all 3 models can be Googled." - Correction on my part. I couldn't pull up a spec sheet for the G5 Desktop, which I thought I had already, so that's why the G5 link I gave goes to Dell's website.
As for the XPS, one of the easiest bets is to just Google it. It does look like spec sheets can be pulled up for specific models.
Hello, it wasn't for games but for working with "archicad, autocad, solidworks".
regarding length, some are shorter than others and I get by with it.
I was asking advice regarding the change of power supply, (power supply envisaged outside the computer) is it going to work or burn out my motherboard with the moddiy 6/24 pin adapter? And which diet to choose? If possible, a powerful enough that can be used later on another computer that I will set up myself when I have more financial means.
And which graphics card the most powerful possible will work (aside from the issue of footprint)
I currently have a GTX 1650 which fits into the computer but does not work due to lack of power from the power supply. At worst if a power supply could at least run this graphics card (75W) that will help me out for the moment
Unfortunately things like Flash Drives and Power supplies are often counterfeited.
Corsair has had this problem for many years as has evga etc.
Thats why you buy retail or directly from the manufacturer.
Dell power supplies down to 305W have that spec for the 3.3v/5v combined power.
Many other vendors with 400 500 600 650 700 850 1000w and more have units that are 100 to 130W max combined for these rails which is insufficient. These are NOT ATX power supplies. They are PFC 80 percent efficient or better EPS12v power supplies. NOTE Dell is not ATX anything. Its Micro BTX and EPS12v. ATX (Advanced Technology eXtended) is a motherboard and power supply configuration specification developed by Intel in 1995. Does not apply to ANY modern Dell from 2006 to now. Early models with Pentium 2 and 3 had 20 pin ATX power supply and ATX motherboard AKA Dimension 4100 with OEM 440BX motherboard.
NOTE this ATX 300W unit has less than 142W combined for 3.3v/5v railsNOTE 150W combined for this DELL 305W unitThis is the 75W spec from 2004 which is 17 years ago.Most modern supplies use 8 pin EPS12v connector for motherboard which can be split into 4 + 4
I realize that I could have been clearer, so I'll try to clarify it a bit.
I had to change my computer quickly because it was not planned, I found this used optiplex 7070 at a good price,
I looked on the data sheet of the dell optiplex 7070mt and I saw that the GTX 1050 graphics card was offered, this card is 75W, as I had a GTX 1650 graphics card which is also 75W
I said to myself that it will be fine and it will help me out for a while.
But when I try to mount my GTX 1650 graphics card, it does not show a problem, but does not work for more than 1 minute and the computer shuts down.
After a lot of research, I found that the optiplex 7070mt that comes with the GTX 1050 have an optional 360W power supply:
what isn’t written in the dell manuals, well I haven’t found it.
And so I end up with a super machine at all levels CPU, SSD, RAM ... and a 10 year old GT 730 graphics card which clearly does not allow me to work with (archicad, autocad, solidworks ...) yes it is not to play I had prayed this machine but for the work.
No way to find this famous optional 360W power supply either.
And I tell myself that if I have to change my power suply , I might as well take one that I can use later to build my own machine when I have more money. What I sincerely wish.
I also ask for a graphics card more powerful than the GTX 1650 because if I need to change the power supply, maybe I can install a more powerful graphics card.which can also serve me later in another machine
So I would have liked to know the bearable limits (and the feasibility) for the optiplex 7070mt concerning the power supply (with moddiy adapter) and the graphics card.
For the dimensions, I manage, I thank you for advising me for its, but this is not what I expect as advice, I am doing well to take measurements.
However, I would be interested to know if anyone has already made this power modification with the moddiy 24/6 pin adapter and what power supply they require.
Please also advise me of other computers, but that is not possible for me at the moment and if I really had to change machines again, it would be to build my own machine.
I'm repeating myself, but I thank you very much for all your comments.
The 500W unit is also optional for the G5 and the 8940.
And 500W is max and its proprietary and there are no MODDIY adapters for the G5 or 8940. So you are painting yourself into a corner as far as upgrades. I recommend Aurora with Liquid cooling and 1000W power supply for modern power hungry GPUS.
And ALL 7080 have very short cases including the Mini Tower. Cards longer than 8 inches may be difficult to impossible to fit in the case.
Please answer me and take your time for all these explanations.
Everything you tell me is very interesting to me and was unknown to me.
What a pain all his, I who thought I would be quiet with this computer and should not touch anything !!
I repeat, but as I am using the translator to speak to you, I would like to be clear and fully understand.
As a reminder:
_Powering outside of the computer is not a problem for me.
_No need to advise me on the dimensions, especially for the graphics card, I will take care of it.
Question:
_1 It is therefore possible to change the power supply of the optiplex 7070mt by a more powerful one with the 6/24 "moddiy" adapter (provided you choose the right power supply), do you confirm?
_2 If the answer is "yes" to the question "1" Can I use the "EVGA 700-BR" power supply that you show me in the link? up to what level of graphics card (1660? 2070 30xx for example ...) I can go with this power supply?
_3 I had found its available from me, (because in addition, at the moment there is a lot of unavailable product) is it suitable? And up to what level of graphics card 1660, 2070, 30xx for example ...? "Corsair RM850x Complete Modular PC Power Supply, 850 Watt, 80 PLUS Gold"
_4 in a new message (7:10 am) you recommend a power supply "orora 1000W with liquid cooling". Is that good for me?
I can't find one, liquid cooling! Its must explode the budget! But will you have a link to buy it?
The 125w GTX 1660 SUPER requires at least a 450w PSU.
As for aftermarket PSU's, speedstep regularly recommends the 700w-750w EVGA B1 or B2 PSU's because aftermarket PSU's can boast more total wattage, but skimp on the 3.3v/5v rails, and then they don't work in a Dell. Hopefully this simplifies a little and doesn't add to any confusion.
7060 7050 7040 7020 DO NOT USE standard power so there are no upgrades. Moddiy makes adapters but that does NOT mean standard PSU physically fits into the case.
you would have to ask Moddiy if their adapter works for 7070
stof22
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Hello, thank you for your answer, no the 1050 will be too fair, at worst 1660 super could be suitable, it is for "CAD / CAM" I would have preferred to ensure the blow with something solid like the 20xx series
bradthetechnut
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February 11th, 2021 10:00
Optiplex 7070 Spec Sheet
So something like the GTX 1050 (better than the 730) wouldn't suit your needs? Just wanted to check first.
stof22
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CAO / DAO
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Optiplex 7080 Spec Sheet
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All 3 suggested GPU cards are a no - RTX 2070 SUPER, RTX 3060 ti, and the GTX 1660 SUPER. They are all too long. Only 8in. max length space for GPU cards in a 7070 MT.
The Optiplex 7070 is a business machine, not built for gaming. That's why the cards it can take are so minimal.
With that in mind, I'd never mind about PSU's (power supplies).
Instead, look at the Optiplex 7080 MT. It can take the 2070 SUPER or the 1660 SJPER.
What also came to mind is Dell's G5 and XPS. Both are meant for gaming. Any of the machines I mentioned should meet your requirements. Also, the specification sheets for all 3 models can be Googled.
Like with Optiplex, there's many XPS models. So may be consider the Optiplex 7080 or the G5. Somebody more familiar with XPS's can always chime in too.
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Dell G5 Desktop
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"Also, the specification sheets for all 3 models can be Googled." - Correction on my part. I couldn't pull up a spec sheet for the G5 Desktop, which I thought I had already, so that's why the G5 link I gave goes to Dell's website.
As for the XPS, one of the easiest bets is to just Google it. It does look like spec sheets can be pulled up for specific models.
stof22
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Hello, it wasn't for games but for working with "archicad, autocad, solidworks".
regarding length, some are shorter than others and I get by with it.
I was asking advice regarding the change of power supply, (power supply envisaged outside the computer) is it going to work or burn out my motherboard with the moddiy 6/24 pin adapter? And which diet to choose? If possible, a powerful enough that can be used later on another computer that I will set up myself when I have more financial means.
And which graphics card the most powerful possible will work (aside from the issue of footprint)
I currently have a GTX 1650 which fits into the computer but does not work due to lack of power from the power supply. At worst if a power supply could at least run this graphics card (75W) that will help me out for the moment
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February 12th, 2021 06:00
The recommendation of EVGA 700BR or 750B1 etc has to do with the COMBINED POWER OUTPUT FOR 3.3v/5v rails.
Bare minimum SPEC is 142W for a DELL Power supply.
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-BR-0700-K1
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-br-series-700w-atx12v-eps12v-80-plus-power-supply-dc-dc-technology-black/6346160.p?skuId=6346160
Unfortunately things like Flash Drives and Power supplies are often counterfeited.
Corsair has had this problem for many years as has evga etc.
Thats why you buy retail or directly from the manufacturer.
Dell power supplies down to 305W have that spec for the 3.3v/5v combined power.
Many other vendors with 400 500 600 650 700 850 1000w and more have units that are 100 to 130W max combined for these rails which is insufficient. These are NOT ATX power supplies. They are PFC 80 percent efficient or better EPS12v power supplies. NOTE Dell is not ATX anything. Its Micro BTX and EPS12v. ATX (Advanced Technology eXtended) is a motherboard and power supply configuration specification developed by Intel in 1995. Does not apply to ANY modern Dell from 2006 to now. Early models with Pentium 2 and 3 had 20 pin ATX power supply and ATX motherboard AKA Dimension 4100 with OEM 440BX motherboard.
https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043469632-How-to-Connect-a-PSU-to-a-4-pin-CPU-port
stof22
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I realize that I could have been clearer, so I'll try to clarify it a bit.
I had to change my computer quickly because it was not planned, I found this used optiplex 7070 at a good price,
I looked on the data sheet of the dell optiplex 7070mt and I saw that the GTX 1050 graphics card was offered, this card is 75W, as I had a GTX 1650 graphics card which is also 75W
I said to myself that it will be fine and it will help me out for a while.
But when I try to mount my GTX 1650 graphics card, it does not show a problem, but does not work for more than 1 minute and the computer shuts down.
After a lot of research, I found that the optiplex 7070mt that comes with the GTX 1050 have an optional 360W power supply:
https://www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/OptiPlex-7070-mini-tower-amp-dedicated-GPUs/m-p/7401107
what isn’t written in the dell manuals, well I haven’t found it.
And so I end up with a super machine at all levels CPU, SSD, RAM ... and a 10 year old GT 730 graphics card which clearly does not allow me to work with (archicad, autocad, solidworks ...) yes it is not to play I had prayed this machine but for the work.
No way to find this famous optional 360W power supply either.
And I tell myself that if I have to change my power suply , I might as well take one that I can use later to build my own machine when I have more money. What I sincerely wish.
I also ask for a graphics card more powerful than the GTX 1650 because if I need to change the power supply, maybe I can install a more powerful graphics card.which can also serve me later in another machine
So I would have liked to know the bearable limits (and the feasibility) for the optiplex 7070mt concerning the power supply (with moddiy adapter) and the graphics card.
For the dimensions, I manage, I thank you for advising me for its, but this is not what I expect as advice, I am doing well to take measurements.
However, I would be interested to know if anyone has already made this power modification with the moddiy 24/6 pin adapter and what power supply they require.
Please also advise me of other computers, but that is not possible for me at the moment and if I really had to change machines again, it would be to build my own machine.
I'm repeating myself, but I thank you very much for all your comments.
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@bradthetechnut
Not all 7080 MT can use 75W to 450W GPU.
The 500W unit is also optional for the G5 and the 8940.
And 500W is max and its proprietary and there are no MODDIY adapters for the G5 or 8940. So you are painting yourself into a corner as far as upgrades. I recommend Aurora with Liquid cooling and 1000W power supply for modern power hungry GPUS.
And ALL 7080 have very short cases including the Mini Tower. Cards longer than 8 inches may be difficult to impossible to fit in the case.
The higher wattage power supplies are optional.
stof22
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February 12th, 2021 10:00
Hello Speedstep,
Please answer me and take your time for all these explanations.
Everything you tell me is very interesting to me and was unknown to me.
What a pain all his, I who thought I would be quiet with this computer and should not touch anything !!
I repeat, but as I am using the translator to speak to you, I would like to be clear and fully understand.
As a reminder:
_Powering outside of the computer is not a problem for me.
_No need to advise me on the dimensions, especially for the graphics card, I will take care of it.
Question:
_1 It is therefore possible to change the power supply of the optiplex 7070mt by a more powerful one with the 6/24 "moddiy" adapter (provided you choose the right power supply), do you confirm?
_2 If the answer is "yes" to the question "1" Can I use the "EVGA 700-BR" power supply that you show me in the link? up to what level of graphics card (1660? 2070 30xx for example ...) I can go with this power supply?
_3 I had found its available from me, (because in addition, at the moment there is a lot of unavailable product) is it suitable? And up to what level of graphics card 1660, 2070, 30xx for example ...? "Corsair RM850x Complete Modular PC Power Supply, 850 Watt, 80 PLUS Gold"
_4 in a new message (7:10 am) you recommend a power supply "orora 1000W with liquid cooling". Is that good for me?
I can't find one, liquid cooling! Its must explode the budget! But will you have a link to buy it?
Thank you again for your answer.
bradthetechnut
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February 12th, 2021 10:00
The 215w 2070 SUPER does require 650w PSU. This backs what speedstep said and his recommendation for PSU.
The above 2 screengrabs are for the Optiplex 7080. One from the spec sheet and one from the Optiplex 7080 Setup and Specifications Guide.
The above screengrab is for the G5 5090 - G5 5090 Setup and Specifications Guide.
I'm not the one painting myself into a corner @speedstep . Knowledge can be added without criticism, but that's certainly not your worst.
It's short sighted in the documentation the required PSU's aren't recommended along with the GPU's.
Please keep in mind I worked on this reply before your last reply popped in @stof22 .
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The 125w GTX 1660 SUPER requires at least a 450w PSU.
As for aftermarket PSU's, speedstep regularly recommends the 700w-750w EVGA B1 or B2 PSU's because aftermarket PSU's can boast more total wattage, but skimp on the 3.3v/5v rails, and then they don't work in a Dell. Hopefully this simplifies a little and doesn't add to any confusion.
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7060 7050 7040 7020 DO NOT USE standard power so there are no upgrades. Moddiy makes adapters but that does NOT mean standard PSU physically fits into the case.
you would have to ask Moddiy if their adapter works for 7070
https://www.moddiy.com/products/Dell-OptiPlex-3040-3050-3060-Main-Power-24-Pin-to-6-Pin-Adapter-Cable.html