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May 6th, 2020 16:00

I am not familiar with linux or  openSUSE Leap 15.2, but I think getting video from the discrete video card is a low level task that should be accomplished during POST before pc goes to boot the OS.  Since you have already made quite a few changes in bios, I suggest you clear CMOS settings to default and remove hdd/ssd from pc, then try to get video from card during POST.  you can either reset cmos jumper or remove/replace cmos battery (after draining system power).

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May 7th, 2020 05:00

Stock MT power supply is not sufficient to run a 7850.

CX450 is too small for a 7850.

BARE Minimum that would work would be EVGA 700BR

Power supplies have more than 1 rail and more than a single spec of WATTS.

You need BARE MINIMUM 25 AMPS on the 3.3v and 5v rails with BARE MINUMUM 150W combined power on those rails.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-700w-atx12v-eps12v-80-plus-bronze-power-supply-dc-dc-technology-black/6346160.p?skuId=6346160

Thats why EVGA 750B1 model works fine but the B2 G2 BQ N1 W1 versions do not work from the same vendor.

750W is not a spec its the overall max output.

Dell 850W units have 225W combined on the 3.3v rails and 30 AMPS.

 

 

 

 

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May 7th, 2020 14:00

Hi @jaycee99,

If you mention the CPU you have, unless you did already. we can also check bottleneck.

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May 7th, 2020 15:00

Bottle check?   There's No "I" In Beer - Brad Paisley  We're all in this together.

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May 7th, 2020 15:00

Indeed. One must use  only  EVGA 700BR

And also do the new bottle check.

Then it's cool.

 

 

 

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May 7th, 2020 23:00

Hi @bradthetechnut 

Sure, this is my cpu, an i5-3570.  If I'm not mistaken the most powerful i5 CPU that works with the Q77 chipset of the motherboard. 

CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-3570 bits: 64 type: MCP L2 cache: 6144 KiB  
          min/max: 1600/3800 MHz

 

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May 7th, 2020 23:00

Hi @speedstep , 

Recommend PSU for this card is 350W ( https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-7850.c1055 )

CX450 is a 450 W PSU, which is 100 W (or 28%) extra.  The 225W PSU of DELL was sufficient to feed the mobo in its original configuration. I did not connect the dvd writer in the current configuration anymore and added 1 SSD.  Thus I added 225W on the PSU only for the 130W this card is demanding. Should be more than enough, no?  

Could you elaborate on the AMPS please? I don't find this kind of specifications.  

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May 8th, 2020 00:00

 

Your graphic card is too weak for this processor.

Intel Core i5-3570 (Clock speed at 100%) with AMD Radeon HD 7850 (Clock speed at 100%) x1 will produce 100% of bottleneck. Everything over 10% is considered as bottleneck.

Graphic card and processor will work great together

Intel Core i5-3570 (Clock speed at 100%) with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti(Clock speed at 100%) x1 will produce only 2.23% of bottleneck. 

Graphic card and processor will work great together

Intel Core i5-3570 (Clock speed at 100%) with AMD Radeon RX 470 (Clock speed at 100%) x1 will produce only 3.05% of bottleneck.

Graphic card and processor will work great together

Intel Core i5-3570 (Clock speed at 100%) with AMD Radeon RX 570 (Clock speed at 100%) x1 will produce only 0.24% of bottleneck.


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May 8th, 2020 14:00

Hi @redxps630,

You know how speedstep regularly recommends the 30w GT 1030?  With the Intel Core i5-3570, if PC-Builds says 100% bottleneck and GPUCheck says less 8%, which one would you believe?

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May 8th, 2020 15:00

gpu check often paints a unrealistic rosy pic of cpu and gpu.  I trust pc-builds more based on prior experience its calculation result is more in line with intuitive estimate.

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May 11th, 2020 23:00

hi @redxps630 

I put in my even older Radeon HD5750. This is a PCI Express v2 bus, whereas the HD7850 is a PCI Express v3 .  This older cards works, but before the desktop switches to the external video card, it takes ages.  I do not see the BIOS start up, neither do I see my OS loader.  

So, my assumption is that the mobo and BIOS have a hard time detecting a PCI Express v3 external video card (or do not even support it).  

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May 11th, 2020 23:00

Hi @redxps630 

See my previous reply, where I prove that an even weaker graphics card (Radeon HD 5750) works well with this CPU.  So, IMO, this cannot be the cause for this error.  

 

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May 12th, 2020 00:00

never mind the previous bottleneck calculator result. I agree bios is acting up.

reset CMOs jumper to clear settings then try again.  For some reason amd cards are a bit more finicky than nvidia.  If still no luck bios needs to be refreshed, consider update bios but understand risk of bios flash beforehand.

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May 12th, 2020 04:00

hi @redxps630 

I will try this again. With the previous card, after resetting it didn't work out, perhaps that with this one it does.  Once I get into the BIOS settings again, I can indicate that the AMD card is the main one, instead of leaving it on "auto".  Otherwise, re-install BIOS could be the last option.  

 

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May 12th, 2020 13:00

If it does have anything to do with BIOS acting up, unless it was replaced within the last 5 yrs., I'd try a new size 2032 CMOS battery.  The 7010 goes back to 2012-2014.  A low battery will cause all sorts of bizarre problems that seem unrelated.  A CMOS reset won't do any good with a low battery.  Cheap fix even if by chance it doesn't work.

Even with a low battery, indeed, things can still be set in BIOS.  But problems will still develop.

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