9 Legend

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12.6K Posts

January 16th, 2022 15:00

The best explanation I saw for the security thresholds were not so much virus related. Rather MS is frustrated from dealing with Blue screen complaints from users. With so many driver and hardware combinations they are tightening up the OS so that they have some control over what is compatible with Windows 11. Or so I have read but take that as my opinion and not gospel truth.

7 Technologist

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9.4K Posts

January 16th, 2022 15:00

I completely understand the rant.  I can't completely explain it, but one user used a VM or another PC to install Win11 on an SSD/HDD.  User then installed drive into a Dimension.  I don't have a chart showing old Dimensions, but they go back to the early 2000's I think.  User posted screengrabs of it in the Optiplex forum.

I'm still staying on Win10.  However, build 21H1 and updates screwed up a few things.  So now I use a previous HDD with build 1903 (never to be updated) along with SSD with 21H1 and the latest or nearly the latest updates.

6 Professor

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1.5K Posts

January 17th, 2022 02:00

I know that planning in advance is a good habit, but in any case win10 is going to be fully updated until 2025 ( and probably longer if they add paid support, but that's a different beast ) so... while this is a more than reasonable question, you have definitely 3 more years ahead with your computer.

The question is : 3 years from now, will you consider updating due to the extra aging on the hardware parts ?

All this said, you can put win11 on it by bypassing the checks ( is an option offered for a full install, given without guarantees of continued updates )  ( but I would do this as late as possible ), or indeed go linux ( linus - linus tech tips - has recent videos of a bet attempt to use linux as daily driver for his needs, gaming included.... you could peek at them to check the distro he used and the problems he faced maybe ).
If you want to try one option, personally i would recommend https://solydxk.com/ ... 

 

9 Legend

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47K Posts

March 2nd, 2022 10:00

@TPHK 

@mazzinia 

@bradthetechnut 

@JOcean 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4JMpOWPLKs

I use rufus 3.17  to make WIN11 installers that work just fine on ANCIENT models like Dimension and Optiplex from 2006 with Pentium D 900 series processor.

Thats as low and slow as you can go and still get it working.

The thing to keep in mind is that you will want a PHYSICAL DVD or 2 or 3 to have as a backup.  Not a burned disk a real recovery DVD.

Once these are gone and 10 is EOL you wont ever be able to get them again.

You can then use the windows 11 RTM ISO  to make extended installer on usb via RUFUS 3.

This is not supported by Dell or Me or Microsoft but it works just fine.

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/49967852

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/48970443

 

9 Legend

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47K Posts

March 2nd, 2022 10:00

@TPHK 

Ubuntu the LTS version works fine for many things including some windows games when you install WINE. Its also not supported unless it was pre installed by dell on your model.

Dell kbdoc 000131655 UBUNTU on your Dell

 

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop

https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/ubuntu-iso/

Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS

Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS

8 Wizard

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17.4K Posts

March 2nd, 2022 11:00


@TPHK wrote:

 

and last but certainly not least games usually via Steam.


To run Windows Direct-X games properly (good FPS etc.), you need Windows running natively on hardware and video-card.

You can run Windows-10 until 2025.

By then, you will likely be ready for a new computer. If not, you can maybe install Windows-11 this way:

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-install-windows-11-on-older-unsupported-pcs/

Or install Ubuntu then.

Actually, you should probably go ahead and try Ubuntu now so you know what it is like. Form your own opinion of how it "replaces Windows" for common computer uses, and also Steam-gaming.

https://www.howtogeek.com/753511/how-to-download-and-install-steam-on-linux/

Actually, if you do that ... I would not mind hearing what you think after really trying to use it for everything. You can even try Wine in Linux.

And once VMs are in the mix, there is always Oracle's Virtual-Box. There is all sorts of free and Open-Source softwares out there to play with.

9 Legend

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47K Posts

March 2nd, 2022 21:00

World of Warcraft can also be played under Ubuntu by using the Wine based CrossOver Games, Cedega and PlayOnLinux.

games on linux with wine

 

8 Wizard

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17.4K Posts

March 3rd, 2022 10:00


@speedstep wrote:

World of Warcraft can also be played under Ubuntu by using the Wine based CrossOver Games, Cedega and PlayOnLinux.

games on linux with wine

 


Never tried playing games in my Ubuntu installs (or Wine, for that matter). I normally always buy and play my Steam games on Windows.

However, when I first installed the Apple version of Steam on my Mac (and logged-into my main Steam Account), I was presented with nice selection of (Apple-Mac native) games to install and play.

In a world where cross-platform software/games are treated as separate licensed products, it was a nice surprise.

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