Running W11 on T3600

Question

Hi. Is there a trick/way to make T3600 suitable for installing W11? Currently, I can't see the 'Secure Boot' option in BIOS settings and have TPM 1.2 with Intel Xeon E5-1650 0 @ 3.20Ghz processor. Also, I can select the UEFI option in the Boot Sequence tab, but it can't find any OS while starting the PC.

JOcean · Accepted Answer

The problem is more than Secure Boot (though I believe the T3600 does not have the capability of Secure Boot having been introduced with Windows 7). You have TPM 1.2 and an unsupported CPU. So if you do manage to install Windows 11 on your system you will not receive updates from MS. It is not clear which updates you would not receive but you would run in an unsupported mode.

And this video describes the waiver you would have to agree to upon installation.

fireberd · Accepted Answer

In reference to unable to boot with UEFI selected.  Your disc is likely formatted 'MBR' and it needs to be formatted 'GPT' for UEFI.

speedstep · Accepted Answer

Please press the blue Accept as Solution button below if this post answers your question. For your model free upgrade is not likely.

The ISO tool for 10 is well known.

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?linkid=617364

MEDIA Creation Tool WIN10 (21H1)

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209

Found win 11 RTM Links since WIN11 is official now.

PC Health Check APP

https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

Installation Assistant (Upgrade now)

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2171764

Media Creation Tool for WIN11

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2156295

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bradthetechnut · Answer

Adding to what fireberd said - If an HDD was loaded in Legacy mode, UEFI mode won't find it and vice-versa.

speedstep · Answer

As Punishment for using windows insider edition you must CLEAN INSTALL 11 wiping everything. Even on supported model.

Keep your files is NOT an option.

This is why I made a throw away system so that If this was the case I didn't lose anything Important.

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fireberd · Answer

I have the Windows Insider Win 11 installed as dual boot (on separate SSD). Does not affect my regular Windows install.

JOcean · Answer

@speedstep Personally I would clean install anyway. Rather than have the update on top of Windows 10 I am one for wiping everything and starting fresh.

speedstep · Answer

@JOcean

The problem with clean install is that Apps that I actually use go away like Skype, MSPAINT, etc. Lots of deprecated features with every clean install of windows. I didn't lose anything because I know how to reinstall 10 clean then upgrade to 11 keeping things like skype intact.

Feature deprecations and removals When upgrading to Windows 11 from Windows 10 or when installing an update to Windows 11, some features may be deprecated or removed. Please see below for information regarding some of the key features impacted:
Cortana	will no longer be included in the first boot experience or pinned to the Taskbar.
Desktop wallpaper	cannot be roamed to or from device when signed in with a Microsoft account.
Internet Explorer	documentation is disabled. Microsoft Edge browser is the recommended replacement and includes IE Mode, which may be useful in certain scenarios.
Management capabilities	for organizations to deliver customized Start and Taskbar experiences are limited: Start supports the ability for organizations to override the Start layout, but does not support locking down the layout from user modification. Taskbar pins and ordering can be controlled by organizations.
Maths Input Panel	is removed. Math Recognizer will install on demand and includes the maths input control and recogniser. Maths inking in apps like OneNote are not impacted by this change.
Multi-App Kiosk Mode	is not available. Windows 11 only supports the use of a single app in Kiosk Mode.
News & Interests	has evolved. New functionality has been added which can be found by clicking the Widgets icon on the Taskbar.
Quick Status	from the Lockscreen and associated settings are removed.
S Mode	is only available now for Windows 11 Home edition.
Search Results from the Internet	Windows 11 does not support disabling the return of internet Search results via Registry Key. The related Group Policy setting is not impacted by this change.
Snipping Tool and Snip and Sketch	have been merged into a single experience keeping the familiar Snipping Tool name.
Start	is significantly changed in Windows 11 including the following key deprecations and removals: Named groups and folders of apps are no longer supported and the layout is not currently resizeable. Pinned apps and sites will not migrate when upgrading from Windows 10. Live Tiles are no longer available. For at-a-glance, dynamic content, see the new Widgets feature.
Tablet Mode	is removed and new functionality and capability is included for keyboard attach and detach postures.
Taskbar	is changed including: People is no longer present on the Taskbar. Some icons may no longer appear in the System Tray (systray) for upgraded devices including previous customisations. Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. Apps can no longer customise areas of the Taskbar.
Timeline	is removed. Some similar functionality is available in Microsoft Edge.
Touch Keyboard	will no longer dock and undock keyboard layouts on screen sizes 18 inches and larger.
Wallet	is removed.
Windows Deployment Services	is being partially deprecated. Please see this article for detailed information.
Windows Store for Business and Windows Store for Education	no longer include the Private Store tab. Please see this blog post for information on app deployment options.

The following apps will not be removed on upgrade but will no longer be installed on new devices or when clean-installing Windows 11. They are available for download from the Store:

speedstep · Answer

Please press the blue Accept as Solution button below if this post answers your question.

Microsoft has added a hack to use if you have Windows 10 and TPM 1.2 enabled.

I used this on a T1700 and T3600 and it worked fine.

Microsoft reveals how to install Windows 11 on unsupported PCs with TPM 1.2 MOSETUP method

https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

Warning:

Microsoft recommends against installing Windows 11 on a device that does not meet the Windows 11 minimum system requirements. If you choose to install Windows 11 on a device that does not meet these requirements, and you acknowledge and understand the risks, you can create the following registry key values and bypass the check for TPM 2.0 (at least TPM 1.2 is required) and the CPU family and model.
Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup
Name: AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU
Type: REG_DWORD
Value: 1
Note: Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might require that you reinstall the operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk.

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Feature deprecations and removals

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