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Ask The Expert: ScaleIO’s Node New Release
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Node Support Community Ask the Expert conversation. EMC ScaleIO recently launched the ScaleIO Node. During this discussion we will be covering any technical or feature related questions about this new and powerful product. Our seasoned experts have extensive experience with ScaleIO and are here to answer any and all your questions. If you missed the live announcement, view it here and ask your questions.
The below video presented by Navin Sharma, provides an overview of the ScaleIO Node. Please watch it and if you have any questions post them on this ATE thread for SME to answer.
Meet Your Experts:
Sr. Consulting Engineer - EMC ScaleIO Sagy has been running very large Linux clusters in the last 10 years (1000+ nodes). A perphie at heart. He mainly concentrate of Linux performance, interaction of kernel with hardware devices, hardware design (designed a chassis in my past) and application performance (Oracle, GPDB, Hadoop variations). Sagy is a Kettlebell fanatic and do a lot of cross country runs. Twitter: @ClusterGuru. |
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Product Manager - EMC ScaleIO I currently lead the ScaleIO product management team at ScaleIO. I have over 10 years of experience in technology sector including product mgmt., software engineering, HW engineering, performance engineering as well as investment banking and consulting. I have several patents and papers on storage systems and clustering. I am an outdoor enthusiast and usually spend my free time hiking, camping with my wife and our dog, a 16lb Schnoodle. Twitter: @navin101. |
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Product Manager - EMC ScaleIO Jason is a Product Manager on the ScaleIO product and true technologist at heart. He works on all aspects of ScaleIO and is always interested in people thoughts on storage, networking, technology and the ways that all these intersect. In previous roles, Jason have been a Technical Trainer, Corporate System Engineer, IT manager and once upon a time, a Support Tech. Twitter: @osaddict |
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RobertoAraujo1
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September 17th, 2015 07:00
This Ask the Expert session is now open for questions. For the next couple of weeks our Subject Matter Experts will be around to reply to your questions, comments or inquiries about our topic.
Let’s make this conversation useful, respectful and entertaining for all. Enjoy!
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September 17th, 2015 11:00
Hey Experts,
If I buy the switches with the nodes, what sort of uplink options do I have?
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September 17th, 2015 11:00
The optional data switches have multiple uplinks options. Depending on which data switch you choose, you can use either 4 or 8 40GbE ports. These are QSFP+ ports and optical adaptors can be purchased with this as well to link back to a core switch.
If your core switch does not have 40GbE ports and that is more bandwidth then you need to the rack, you can use some of the 10GbE ports to link to a core switch. These are SFP+ ports and you can either purchase the optical adaptor or use a copper Twix-Ax cable. The copper cable will have a linked length though, which may not be long enough to reach your core switch.
As you can see, we are working to provide an very flexible solution.
--Jason
rlongley
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September 17th, 2015 15:00
At what scale, performance requirement and use case does it make sense to use ScaleIO vs say....XtremIO?
Thanks!
osaddict
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September 17th, 2015 18:00
My thoughts are:
XtremIO is a better fit where you need deduplication and very dense performance that will be dedicated to just storage. VDI is great use case for XtremeIO.
ScaleIO is great when you want storage that can start small (3 nodes) and expand to very high scale (1024 nodes), prefer a system that runs on standard hardware and can change as you environment changes. Examples being migrating from dedicate storage servers, to running applications and storage together. Or OS changes, say linux server, to vmware, to openstack, to windows, or all of those at the same time. They can all be contributing their local disk to the same ScaleIO storage cluster sharing it back to all those systems and other application severs at the same time. As new generations of hardware and storage media come out, those can be added and the old remove without data migrations. So, yeah, flexibility is great with ScaleIO. The performance can be very high with ScaleIO. However. it will most likely take more rack space to get there with ScaleIO than some all flash product. Lastly, ScaleIO is able to get all this great performance by just using standard ethernet switches, without need to maintain a FC infrastructure.
As far as use cases, there are places where ScaleIO or other products can be used. An example of this might by Splunk. We have customers running Splunk with XtremIO and some using ScaleIO for the hot/warm bucket. Many also adding Isilon for a cold bucket to provide a really dense long term storage. A lot this comes down to how the customer wants to build and maintain their data center going forward. Many customer want to get to place where they can run application and storage together, on standard hardware, but can't make the jump directly. ScaleIO's flexibility allows them to "baby step" that direction. Creating what we call a 2-tier deployment with dedicated storage nodes and then gradually running applications on those same nodes serving up the storage, or they can wait until they need more application servers. Buying those application servers with local disk and joining them to the cluster. When they are doing this, they have a mix of servers doing both app and storage as well as servers just providing storage, and ScaleIO doesn't care. It's just simple software the shares your local drives out, aggregating them into a large, fast pool or multiple pool(s).
Obviously, performance is going to be a factor on deciding which to use as well. We have sizing guidance tool that can help with this. Please reach out to your account team and they can give you information to help you decide which way is best for you.
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September 21st, 2015 22:00
Hi Experts,
1. Does the ongoing read/write operations between SDS and SDC involves/requires MDMs(Clustered)? From what i read is that the communication between SDS and SDC are among themselves.
2. Based on Q1, in a clustered MDMs scenario, a failure of 1MDM does not affect the operation. What if 2 out of 3 nodes fail(power down) (2 MDMs or 1MDM and 1 TB) or even all 3 MDMs, does it impact the ongoing operation/production between the SDS and SDC?
3. Let's say in a scenario where initially the ScaleIO is setup with a single MDM, can I upgrade it to clustered MDM by adding a secondary MDM and a TB? If yes, can i perform the cluster upgrade without disruption (NDU) ?
4. What does zero padding policy actually do? What's the impact of enabling it vs disabling it? (performance, throughput, bandwidth...etc)
5. The connection for data movement is between SDS and SDC, lets say one of the connection is failed, what is the number of retry and the timeout in seconds for SDS before identifying as failed? Is there a settings on this two parameters?
6. Refer to Q5, same goes to SDC, what is the number of retry and the timeout in seconds?
7. Can a mixed version ScaleIO nodes operates together? Current version is 1.32, let's say i add new SDS and SDC with newer version (eg. 1.33..1.34) into the current ScaleIO environment, is it possible? or Do I need to upgrade the existing version of ScaleIO to match with the new version of SDS and SDC?
8. Lets say I have a HDD with 1TB size, is it supported/ recommended to partition it into smaller size, and add as a few devices for each partition? (1TB= 250GBx4, 4 devices)
9. Can a Mixed disk capacity of devices be added into the same pool? is it recommended? or is it better that each pool should have the same size of device from each SDS?
10. Let's say I have a scenario where the ScaleIO consists of 6 SDSs, 3 of the SDSs fail(shutdown). By right, the ongoing operation will be stopped and data will be corrupted. If I bring up the 3 SDSs, will the data be rebuild? since the existing data is still sitting at the disk in the 3 SDSs.
11. Based on Q10, let's say the data can be recovered as long as the device is still healthy in the SDS, In a scenario with 3 SDs, is it possible to switch their HDD to 3 new SDS and remain all the data(volume) intact? (inactivate the protection domain, bring down existing 3 SDS servers, Install SDS in 3 new servers, and physically switch the HDDs from old SDS to new SDS)?
12. Is there a configuration in SDS and SDC? if yes, how to backup it?
13. Is there a way to backup MDM configuration? Let's say I want to refresh the existing MDM servers to new servers? How do i migrate the existing configuration?
Thanks!
RobertoAraujo1
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September 22nd, 2015 18:00
Hi folks, I wanted to let you know that on this thread I just posted a video presented by Navin Sharma (one of our SMEs). The video is an edited version of a webinar which provides an overview of the ScaleIO Node. We're making it available to you to better inform you and inspire you to come up with additional questions for our experts.
RobertoAraujo1
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October 1st, 2015 09:00
This Ask the Expert event has officially ended, but don't let that retract you from asking more questions. At this point our SME are still welcomed to answer and continue the discussion though not required. Here is where we ask our community members to chime in and assist other users if they're able to provide information.
Many thanks to our SMEs who selflessly made themselves available to answer questions. We also appreciate our users for taking part of the discussion and ask so many interesting questions.
ATE events are made for your benefit as members of ECN. If you’re interested in pitching a topic or Subject Matter Experts we would be interested in hearing it. To learn more on what it takes to start an event please visit our Ask the Expert Program Space on ECN.
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October 9th, 2015 13:00
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December 29th, 2015 18:00
Hello Experts,
I am doing the internal product evaulation on ScaleIO to propose this produc in our upcoming solutions
I have gone through ScaleIO Architecture but still have following question if you guys can answer would be grreat help
Customers wihc is such large scale of Storage normally have hetrogeonous infra with following performace requiremnet
Tier 1 400-600 IOPS with 5ms- to 7ms latency Capacity 400 TB OS Instance 1000
Tier 2 300-400 IOPS with 10ms to15ms latency Capacity 800 TB OS Instance 3000
Tier 3 200-300 IOPS with 15ms to 20ms latency Capacity 1.5 PB OS Instance 6000
Tier 4 100-200 IOPS with >20ms latency Capacity 1 PB OS Instance 4000
is it correct> Any other replicationtechnology supported by ScaleIO?
A.8: Yes, SAcaleIO support QoS ( can adjust the amount of bandwidth and storage any given ScaleIO dataclients can use-Page45) ,ViPR not support QoS for ScaleIO.is it correct
A.10: Scale IO does support multi-tenancy with Protection domain and Storage Pools.
is it correct
Kindly provide some PoC and Proves ( iif any written EMC links stats this would be good)
bakitup
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March 18th, 2016 08:00
Hello
On deploying the MDM, SDC,etc from the Gateway server it does not allow you to enter another login ID (other than root and Administrators), are you all planning on changing that? In our environment only server admins have the Administrator login/password but we have domain admin accounts which would allow me to install if I could enter a login to use on the GW server. Otherwise we have to install manually, which leads to my next question.
I have followed the manual deployment steps and on Task 2 (Creating MDM Cluster) it notes a scli command, but that command does not seem to exists. I have installed MDM, SDC, SDS, LIA on the server.
I have done a find on the server and it does not find that command.
Thanks
Jeff
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April 4th, 2016 17:00
have you guys had a chance to develop any ScaleIO deployment best practices? I work in global alliances and we have some service provider specific challenges and I'd like to gather any deployment best practices I can get my hands on.