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Dim 4600 adding Seagate hard drive - new drive not recognized
It's this one
http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?&langId=-1&storeId=10001&splCatType=1&catalogId=10051&productId=169534&cmArea=SC3:CG6:smileyvery-happy:P1928:CL140461:SS1034645
I've got it installed but the new drive isn't recognized.
Do I have to move jumpers on the motherboard?
The motherboard is Intel Desktop Board D865PE
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/rl/rl_confg.htm
or
set the bios on startup?
or
is this the problem?
The old drive is connected using ribbon.
The new Seagate I connected using Interface Cable that came in the box.
Do I need to go buy some kind of adapter?
Thanks for the help.
I forgot to say
I would like to do what you said
make the Seagate the primary via cloning
and then eventually not use the 80gb.
Here is more info from another post of mine.
http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_harddrive&thread.id=142020
Thanks for the help.
CDO
Ryanh6178
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April 22nd, 2008 20:00
DuttonFarmer2,
Have you tried booting the 80GB with the 500GB connected to the SATA port 0 and turned on in the BIOS.
As long as the SATA drive is recognized you should be able to clone the drive to the 500GB with no problems. I orginally had a 200GB PATA (IDE) installed, but I perform hard drive recoveries on that platform and needed more space. I used Norton Ghost 8.3 to clone from the 200GB to a 1TB drive and it's currently running with no problems.
The actual driver that the SATA is using is the Intel 5.0.1007 driver.
DuttonFarmer2
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April 22nd, 2008 20:00
Ryan, I just saw your post.
I have tried booting booting the 80GB with the 500GB connected to the SATA-0 and turned on in the BIOS.
I have also tried using SATA-1
I spent 30 min+ with Seagate on the phone today.
Then I spent 30 min+ with Dell on the phone too.
Right now I do have jumpers on cable select.
Intel drivers can't be updated from the dell site?
shesagordie
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April 22nd, 2008 20:00
Sorry, but you cannot clone an IDE hard drive to a SATA drive, as you have found out, the 4600 was one of the first Dell systems to support SATA and they used a Promise Driver.
You need to install the SATA hard drive as the primary C:/ and reinstall XP, all the drivers and the applications. You need to install the SATA driver, when requested [F6].
When Dell factory installed a SATA hard drive, in a 4600 system, they included the Promise FastTrack S150 TX2 Drivers on a floppy, this driver is not available on Dell's Downloads and Drivers site, you would need to download it from the Promse website.
The directions for reinstalling XP on a 4600 are here
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DuttonFarmer2
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April 22nd, 2008 20:00
It did boot into Windows with 80gb having the 500gb connected
but I can't get it to do that again.
I was using Seagate Diskwizard
cloning the new 500gb hard drive
and I was making partitions
and somewhere in there it froze.
I haven't been able to get back to that point again.
I think I need to zero the SATA drive?
Ryanh6178
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April 22nd, 2008 20:00
So, when you booted the 80GB having the 500GB connected did it boot into Windows?
If so, then you would need to initialize the drive there under "Disk Management" (right click on my computer and choose "manage").
Once initialized I would restart the system and verify that you're booting the 80GB and can see the 500GB as a second drive letter.
After, I would try to utilize Seagate's software to clone the drive. The Intel driver is kind of mute, since the SATA is being used in ATA mode.
Ryanh6178
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April 22nd, 2008 20:00
DuttonFarmer2
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April 22nd, 2008 21:00
I just booted with 80gb drive as Primary Master Drive
and made Sata-1 Sata Secondary Drive on Auto
and I got
the black screen with
Dell System Dim 4600i series
Bios Version A12
www.dell.com
and some other stuff above that
cursor blinking
Ryanh6178
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April 23rd, 2008 14:00
Ok, I rechecked my BIOS settings and they are as follows:
Drive Configuration:
SATA Primary Drive ...... Hard Drive (after setting to "Auto")
Primary Master Drive ...... Hard Drive (after setting to "Auto")
Hard Disk Drive Sequence:
1. USB device (not installed)
2. System BIOS boot devices
3. Unknown device (not installed)
Boot Sequence:
1. Diskette Drive
2. CD-ROM device
3. Hard-Disk Drive C:
With these settings my SATA drive boots. My PATA (IDE) changes all the time, since I recover damaged drives. The PATA drives that are plugged into this port are usually bootable drives, however, my SATA remains the primary boot device in the system.
Ryanh6178
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April 23rd, 2008 15:00
If you have a floppy drive installed then check your connections both ribbon cable and power cable.
If you don't have a floppy drive in the system or if the drive is dead then turn it off in the BIOS under "Drive Configuration" at the top.
DuttonFarmer2
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April 23rd, 2008 15:00
Here is what I set the bios to:
Drive Configuration:
SATA Primary Drive ...... Hard Drive (after setting to Auto)
Primary Master Drive ...... Hard Drive (after setting to Auto)
Hard Disk Drive Sequence:
1. USB device (not installed)
2. System BIOS boot devices
Boot Sequence:
1. IDE CD-ROM Device
2. Hard-Disk Drive C:
When I do save and exit
I get the
Diskette drive 0 seek failure
and a blinking cursor
DuttonFarmer2
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April 23rd, 2008 16:00
I turned off the Diskette Drive A: Not Installed
Save and Exit
went straight in to black screen blinking cursor
then I shut down
turned off SATA drive
went into Windows XP okay
Ryanh6178
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April 23rd, 2008 16:00
Well, it does seem that it's recognizing both drives.... Since the SATA wasn't completely installed then that could be why it stops at the black screen.
Can you try pressing "F12" during POST (Dell Logo screen) to load the boot menu. Select the "Primary Master drive" in the selection and see if it will boot into Windows with the SATA turned on in the BIOS.
If it doesn't then I would go into "Disk Management" (right click "My Computer" and choose "Manage") and try formatting the 500GB.
DuttonFarmer2
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April 23rd, 2008 17:00
Okay I got in !!!
Found New Hardware !!!
WOW
(CDO slides sledgehammer back underneath desk)
Now what do I do?
The 80GB is
39MB FAT
Healthy (EISA Configuration)
Local Disk (C:)
74.46 GB NTFS
Healthy (System)
F Drive Seagate 500GB (F:)
465.76 GB NTFS
Healthy (Active)
The problem I had cloning in Seagate Wizard the last time
may have been when I tried to partition.
Ryanh6178
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April 23rd, 2008 17:00
Ok,
For starters.... Go ahead and "reformat" the partition (right click format) allow all the defaults (NTFS) and select the checkbox for "quick format"
Let me download the Seagate software and run through the cloning real quick so that I can tell you exactly what to do. =)
Be back in a few...
Ryanh6178
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April 23rd, 2008 18:00
Ok,
Well I downloaded Seagate Disk Wizard (Acronis) (about 104MB). Booted the PATA and started the install. It wanted a "reboot" upon completion.
Done.
I chose to "clone" the drive from the older (mine 500GB) to (mine 1TB). Make sure you allow it to DELETE THE TARGET PARTITIONS (if any) You need to make sure you choose "MANUAL" for expert users. Choosing "automatic" wanted to mimic the original drive making the target the same size. I'm sure you want to utilize your whole drive so choose "manual". It wanted to reboot again and is now performing the cloning with the Windows blue start up background (never seen this other than running chkdsk before. =) ).
It seemed to take quite a bit of time at the beginning when "checking partitions", but it finally moved on.
It's rolling as we speak, but I'm at 3% hehe