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June 1st, 2021 14:00

Nvme expansion drive terribly slow

Hello -

I purchased a 2tb Mushkin Pilot-E nvme drive for my AW R10.

I have tried a usb-c external enclosure, and I’ve tried a pcie expansion card in slot 4. 

The speed is AWFUL. About 225/175 MB/a on the R10 in either config, but on my MacBook Pro (Intel), the drive maxes out at the enclosures max speed 1000/1000MB/s. 

Is this an AMD thing? I have the 5950x on b550a mobo. Drive works fine on Intel, and both methods of interface on the Alienware are similar speeds (slooooooow). I contacted the external enclosure maker and they refunded me, but I want to get this drive working. 

Thoughts? Thanks. 

  • Daugvolf

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    Correction - You said PCIe x4 v3 which has a max bandwidth of 3940MB/s

  • DellIsAwful

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    The external enclosure is rated to max out at the same speed as the Dell. Why would it only use a fraction of the speed that is available, even with a bottleneck it should at least reach the bottleneck. 

  • r72019

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    Are you using the USB/C port on the back of the PC.  That USB/C port is twice as fast as the one on the front of the PC.  

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    Correct. I am getting identical speeds internal via pcie AND via external enclosure. Approx 225/175MB/s on the R10. 

    Significantly slower than the enclosure (and pcie card, for that matter) @ 1000/1000 it is rated for, and achieves on my Intel MBP. 

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    Even if there were some devices or peripherals (there aren’t), and even if we assume the port splits to 2x5gbps that’s still >600MB/s. 

  • Daugvolf

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    The bus lanes for USB are likely shared and could also be shared with other components, like PCI lanes. So if the total lane for USB has a max of 10Gbs and you have something plugged into a 10Gbs port and something plugged into a 5Gbs port, your 10Gbs device is actually only going to run at 5Gbs because it has to share the lane.

    I have no idea how the R10's lanes are configured (It's not published) so you'd need a Dev or support to confirm that here.

  • r72019

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    What expansion card did you use? 

  • Daugvolf

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    Ugh, I'm getting Gigabits and Gigabytes confused again. I really wish that were standardized. So that 10GBs rating on the USB port is actually 10 Gigabits which equates to 1.25 Gigabytes. Half of that would be the 625 Mbs you're describing. That being said I'll shut up and let someone else answer who isn't having a brain fart.

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    Macbook uses Thunderbolt (40Gbs) for the connection, which is always going to be faster than any port on most desktops. By contrast, the fastest port on the R10 is a single USB 3.1 Gen 2 port (10Gbs)

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    Posted June 1st, 2021 14:00

    And the pcie expansion is running at the same speed as external enclosure. 

    How is that accounted for?