Aurora R10, no overclocking in AWCC

I think it will be hard for Dell to argue they do not warranty overclocking when they provide an overclocking utility to overclock...

I would like to see them make the argument that damaging the GPU by overclocking using their factory supplied utility voids warranty. Especially since that utility comes factory installed and has no disclaimer when you run it that using it voids the warranty. 

It even comes with factory profiles for "overclock01" and "overclock02".

FYI - here is how my BIOS is set with PBO enabled:

Altering clock frequency or voltage may damage or reduce the useful life of the processor and other system components, and may reduce system stability and performance. Product warranties may not apply if the components are operated beyond specifications.

The Performance Tuning Protection Plan program has been discontinued.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3609834/overclock-at-your-own-risk-intel-axes-its-overclocking-warranty.html

I am going to look again tonight when I get home  just to be sure, but I am 99% sure that PBO settings does not show in my Bios, version 2.1.1.

Ryzen Master screenshot says 3800X.  I have a 3700X.

I am going to look tonight, because now I am curious.

because your R10 is old for 3xxx cpu and other guys who showed PBO funtion is absolutley new R10 with new mother and 5000 CPU.

That is why you don't have that selection on BIOS. LOL

@Vanadiel 

As promised, I checked this out in the Bios, version 2.1.1.

I do not have the PBO option. Very bizarre you have that option with your 3800X, and I do not with my 3700X.

if your ram is not xmp certified or 1 or more sticks is not XMP certified you will not have an option to overclock.

Processor, Bios, chipset, ram must all have overclock capability..

What does CPU-Z say about your CPU, Main Board, ram SPD.??

I see from your post above that you can enable PBO with Ryzen Master.

I wonder why the 2.1.1 BIOS has taken that option out?

Note: I am on BIOS 1.0.8

It's an Alienware R10, 3700X, XMP profile for RAM.

I can use PBO fine with Ryzen master.

It's not listed in the bios. But it is listed in the screenshot posted for a 3800X.

The system is perfectly capable of using PBO under Ryzen master.

This is an explanation of what is what. PBO is not the same as PB and has no effect on clock speeds or overclocking.

Precision Boost (PB) - AMD's boost algorithm, decides core clocks based on power (voltage&current) and temperature. Can only boost to max stock clocks.

Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) - Increases the power that can be provided to the CPU by the VRMs, doesn't change clocks.

Bizarre, right? Especially since the 3800X you use has a 105 Watt TDP and the 3700X I use has a 65 Watt TDP. With PBO enabled I would still have a lower power envelope than you without PBO enabled.

PBO would likely benefit me more than it benefits you.

I've been doing some research on this and I think the reason why they might have disabled it for the 3700X and other 65w Ryzens is because they ship these systems without VRM heatsinks, and overclocking would cause increased load and heat on them. I have the stock air cooler, which isn't cutting it for me, so I'm looking into replacing it with a liquid cooler, but I found out that I need to have heatsinks on the VRM's and my system didn't come with them. The 3800X and other 105w Ryzens appear to come standard with those heatsinks installed, so that could be the reason why they've enabled overclocking in the menu for only those cpu's. I don't know if this is the reason for sure, but it seems like the most likely explanation. I wish Dell would be a little more forthcoming with their reasoning on this, since these systems all use the motherboard and they even advertise overclocking as a feature on all R10's.

I purchased mine with the liquid cooling option, which means I have VRM heat sinks.

Yes, those with air cooling apparently do not need VRM heat sinks because the airflow from the heatsink is supposed to cool them down. Not sure how correct that is, but that is apparently the reason why those systems ordered with air cooling do not have VRM heat sinks.

So I do have VRM heat sinks, should be no issue drawing extra power from the VRM's. We are talking here about maybe 15 Watts or so anyways and all the R10 boards seems to be identical.

I fixed my issue by pulling the chip from the Alienware R10 system and using it in a retail board that I used to make up a new machine.

I am now using PBO without any issue and I don't have to deal with all the silly OEM/Alienware restrictions and quirks anymore.

i have the ryzen 9 5900 same r10 model and I don't have the options either. my chip is only a little less then a year old.