Cloning HDD Problems

I have a 4000 (also the 4100 and 4150 will do this) and can boot from the floppy hooked with a special cable to the parallel port.  8x00 notebooks BIOS do not support this, also the new notebooks do not.

[Edit] You could leave the fdisk, format, make bootable, and have Ghost on the new drive in C: and boot to it then clone from the old driver in the media bay.

Message Edited by johnallg on 11-16-2003 08:17 PM

I'm trying to clone my internal hard drive to an IEEE 1394 External one, but every time I do, it says that the process failed. Is there anything I can do to stop this and also can I clone my drive, not in DOS?

When I did it, I put the new drive into the internal spot, the old one to clone in the media bay, and booted to the Ghost floppy and cloned D: to C:.

Hi John,

as either 2nd HDD or Floppy fit into my Media Bay,

you booted from Floppy with Ghost, exchanged Floppy with 2nd HDD and started cloning?

Thanks

No experience with Ghost and firewire - info was posted here about a year ago so try a search.

Okay thanks, I'll try that.

Drive Image 7.0 will Image and clone in window to firewire.

Why would you use a image program to make a clone ????

http://www.fssdev.com/products/  make the clone and then
un-plug the power to the drive if you want.

Want to test drive a Demo for 30 days. It has some
features disabled.

http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3000-2248-10161152.html?tag=lst-1-8

Thank I'll try that. Also, Norton Ghost is an image program, but under the advanced section it has a cloning ability.

Hi folks...

I've cloned many drives in desktops and laptops using various means. Norton Ghost works and does the job. But for laptops I've stuck on using Apricorn UNIVERSAL EZ-UPGRADE kits. So far I've never had a problem of any kind using them.

Cloning to a module bay HDD from the primary HDD??? I've avoided that... and always clone to an external drive with 100% success.

NEVER bootup or reboot WITH BOTH the cloned-to and cloned-from HDD's attached... if the OS and OEM apps are still on the cloned-from drive. Having two identical partitions on two drives, with identical OS's and OEM apps could cause major system confusion within the OS and to or within any apps accessing the OS. Can you spell C-R-A-S-H?

ALWAYS, keep the cloned-from drive intact for a few weeks or longer.. as insurance against a scrambled OS on the new cloned-to drive... or a drive defect on the new drive that causes problems.

YES... you can safely connect the cloned-from drive safely, regardless of what is or isn't on it, once your laptop is fully booted... for when you want to compare files, erase data, reformat the drive etc.

USING the Apricorn EZ-UPGRADE USB (2.0) Kit... it's a relatively simple and painless procedure... unless money spending is a pain in your circumstances.

My (this week) HDD upgrade particulars on my I8200:

1 - Koutech 4-port 1394/USB 2.0 PCMCIA Cardbus Card Part# 7004                                                           $54.00

1 - Apricorn Universal EZ-UPGRADE (2.0) Kit                                                                                                $73.00

1 - New Hitachi/IBM drive I cloned and installed:                                                                                            $252.00

HITACHI/IBM Notebook Hard Drive 80GB 5400RPM Model# 5K80 HTS548080M9AT00 PART# 08K0639
Form: 2.5 Inch 9.5mm Height
Size: 80 Gigabytes (Mine formatted to 74.4GB's)
Interface: ATA-6
Average Seek time: 12ms (typ)
RPM: 5400
Cache: 8MB

I added the Koutech 4-port 1394/USB 2.0 Cardbus Card to give my I8200 up-to-date maximum USB speed and overall versatility, and to have a full-size 1394 port. It's an addition that'll get lots of use. The I8200 was factory fitted with only one (1) mini-1394 port, and two (2) USB 1.1 ports.

Had I cloned to the new drive through the I8200 on-board USB 1.1 port the process would have taken 7-hours or longer. Cloning the original 60GB drive to the new 80GB drive through the new cardbus USB 2.0 port took 1-hour and 45-minutes. Total time for driver and software installs, hardware installs and swapping... 2-hours and 20-minutes.

The Apricorn external USB 2.0 case and cables will now house and power the old drive for extra storage... and can always be used again with the EZ-Gig II software for more cloning. The Apricorn EZ-UPGRADE Kit is infintely reusable for clone after clone. No waste from money spent - no idle cables and hardware to stash - every part useful frequently.

Good'uns to all,

FrostKing9

Message Edited by FrostKing9 on 11-21-2003 02:07 PM

I personaly would never buy a something that had a limited number of installs (10 ).  Apricorn limits you to the number of times you can use the software. Buy something that you can use as a back-up program.

Http://www.fssdev.com/products/  make the clone and use as the fastest backup you can do.

Want to test drive a Demo for 30 days. It has some
features disabled.

http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3000-2248-10161152.html?tag=lst-1-8

 

Willy Tee...

To a point I agree.... then greatly disagree.

1 -  While the product you mentioned may be excellent, it is a "software only"... deal.... no hardware is provided.  Which means that inexperienced users still have to seek out and purchase a 2.5-inch case, power supply or power adapter, and cables.  That can be time-consuming, and still adds hardware expense.... PLUS any shipping costs, if a suitable product cannot be found in-stock locally.  The solution you mentioned may be great for intermediate and advanced PC users, because many of those have extra parts to use or know where and how to buy them economically.  Whereas, the Apricorn EZ-UPGRADE Kit is an excellent one-package total cloning solution for the novice to average PC user, minus the hard drive.  

2 -  Apricon does provide ImageEZ disk and partition imaging software on the EZ-Gig II CD that has no time or number-of-use limits.
 
3 -  The Apricorn product you referenced - the old-style Apricorn EZ-GIG Kit, allowed for only ten (10) uses of the cloning software... though the odd-style case and PCMCIA cable are infinitely reusable for a backup drive or a storage drive.   It's a product likely to be phased out as Win95, 98, 98se & WinME lose popularity, and the population of WinXP units grows.

The best.... the Apricorn EZ-UPGRADE Kit can run the CloneEZ cloning software by booting to the EZ-Gig II software CD.  No software installation is necessary to clone a drive.  I found no reference in any Apricorn supplied documentation that limited the number of uses of the CloneEZ cloning software. 

It's simple... most people prefer a reliable "one-box from one-vendor" solution that does the job admirably... and eliminates the hassles of piece-mealing a solution together from multiple sources.  Time saved... hassles avoided.

Then, if someone wants a backup solution with a feature-rich user interface and a slew of options, they could surely purchase and use the product you mentioned instead of the Apricorn ImageEZ backup solution. 

FrostKing9

Points all well taken. Granted it was last year when I bought the kit from Dell and sent it back. It was a cheap adapter and the software was a problem.

PCMCIA  Is slow by today's standards. USB 2.0 is much faster. 150mb's  vs  480 mb's

A USB 2.0 / 2.5 case can be bought for $29.00 anywhere today, case, adapter and both cords included.

If you try XP-Casper you'll see why I recommend it.

With this you can make the clone and have a real back system, fast and Bootable.