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imaging hard drive - same computer
Hello,
I have old failling 40 gb hard drive on my Inspiron 8200 notebook. Tomorrow I'll be getting:
-new 7k60 - 60 gb hard drive
-an external enclosure for old hard drive
I would like to use the new drive in the best way possible (reliability/performance/flexibility). I was wondering what the best way to go about the transfer is. I was especially hoping that someone with experience using 2 partitions with OS in first one could comment.
Right now I have my 40 gb model in one big xp partition. I have it backed up with Retrospect - using external firewire seagate drive for storage of backup set.
Should i just install new hard drive and run "disaster recovery" cd that I made - restoring all files from firewire drive. Then "extending" the partition to use full 60 gb of space that I will have on new hard drive?
Or should I create 2 partions on new drive install xp on its own partition and install all programs in second partion so that I can transfer more easily in the future? What's the downside to this option? If I go with this option - how big should I make the XP partition? Will some programs refuse to run on a second partition? Has anyone gone this route and had succesful reinstallations/upgrades? Will replacing the OS on partion1 with new OS such as clean install wipe out registry settings for programs? Doesn't that mean I would have to reinstall the programs anyway - not just leave them in second partition?
Thanks for any advice.
I have old failling 40 gb hard drive on my Inspiron 8200 notebook. Tomorrow I'll be getting:
-new 7k60 - 60 gb hard drive
-an external enclosure for old hard drive
I would like to use the new drive in the best way possible (reliability/performance/flexibility). I was wondering what the best way to go about the transfer is. I was especially hoping that someone with experience using 2 partitions with OS in first one could comment.
Right now I have my 40 gb model in one big xp partition. I have it backed up with Retrospect - using external firewire seagate drive for storage of backup set.
Should i just install new hard drive and run "disaster recovery" cd that I made - restoring all files from firewire drive. Then "extending" the partition to use full 60 gb of space that I will have on new hard drive?
Or should I create 2 partions on new drive install xp on its own partition and install all programs in second partion so that I can transfer more easily in the future? What's the downside to this option? If I go with this option - how big should I make the XP partition? Will some programs refuse to run on a second partition? Has anyone gone this route and had succesful reinstallations/upgrades? Will replacing the OS on partion1 with new OS such as clean install wipe out registry settings for programs? Doesn't that mean I would have to reinstall the programs anyway - not just leave them in second partition?
Thanks for any advice.
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jankerson
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February 15th, 2005 15:00
arshapro
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February 15th, 2005 15:00
So, you advocate 2 partitions and reinstall of programs on second partion so that i can image the first partion in the future for future installs - i thought that might be best route.
What is all this talk in the forums about a "hidden" partition with diagnostic tools on it? Does my Inspiron 8200 - purchased winter 2002 have this?
Should I be trying to image the "hidden" partition to my new hard drive? Can I do this?
Thank you,
arshapro
Message Edited by arshapro on 02-15-2005 11:30 AM
arshapro
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February 15th, 2005 15:00
I have two final questions.
1. I have just found out about this media bay for 2nd hard drive. Is it possible to set up a raid 0 or raid 1 configuration with 8200 if I use this media bay device? Is there a raid controller on the motherboard? Is it possible to buy a raid controller pcmcia card?
2. When you say Ghost v9 can do "this" you mean that it can image a volume to another volume, right? So if I were to partition to 2 partitions and place XP in first partion and programs in 2nd. Then - if there was catastrophe in the future - I could:
-get new hard drive
-partition to 2 partions of same size as broken drive
-use Ghost to image 1st partition over
-then copy "data" partition over manually
right?
You don't mean that it can partition drive and put OS in one partition and programs in other partition in one fell swoop do you?
Thanks,
arshapro
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jankerson
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February 15th, 2005 15:00
Yes you can do that, but I am not sure you can do it with the software you are using. I know Ghost Ver 9 will do it.
All you have is the tools partition, it is up to you if you want to keep it or not.
arshapro
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February 15th, 2005 16:00
jankerson
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February 15th, 2005 16:00
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February 16th, 2005 21:00
arshapro
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February 16th, 2005 21:00
-received 7k60 today
-made install folder on external hard drive with installer/setup files for ALL programs on computer
-made list of all serial/VN numbers for reinstall
-backed up "my documents"
-exported mail to personal folder
-exported ie settings
-installed new 7k60
-partitioned to 10 gb for xp 50 gb "data"
-took old hard drive installed in external enclosure
-installed xp
-installed security updates/sp2 -- should have done slipstreaming would have saved me time I think
-copied over some files i forgot from old hard drive via firewire hub
-installed most programs from install folder into 50 gb "data" partition - still installing some as i make this post - some will only install into c: partition
-will be setting up weekly image scripts using Dantz retrospect for 10gb portion/semi weekly scripts for program files installed into 50 gb partition and daily scripts for "my documents"
-wish there was a way to incrementally back up outlook - hate having to export all mail each time - don't want to have to sort mail into folders by date
7k60 is very quiet - think maybe quieter than old drive - there has not been any "clicking" yet as another mentioned.
laptop starts up MUCH faster. know that this is result of 7k60 - not clean install as have done clean installs on this machine before had 7k60. probably twice as fast for startup. have not done much work with it yet as still installing some progs. but am very optimistic given drastically reduced startup time. so far - very pleased. think have probably maxed out system.
now to sit and wish for 17" wuxga,pci-express,newcard slotted(when is newcard going to be shipping in laptops anyway?!), 1 fixed drive, 1 media bay that can double as 2nd battery slot, curved keyboard, flip around screen for desktop usage, raid enabled, video camera integrated laptop system with 2 dvi outs (or HDMI, hey we're dreaming here, right?) for 2 external monitors that can go into span mode for super huge wide screen tv.
-arshapro