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June 5th, 2019 21:00

XPS 8930 SE, Exhaust Fan and PSU Upgrade

XPS 8930 Tower Special Edition

  • Motherboard Chipset Intel Kaby Point Z370, Intel Coffee Lake-S
  • 9th Generation Intel® Core™ i9-9900K 8-Core Processor (16M Cache, up to 5.0 GHz)
  • 64GB, DDR4, 2666MHz Samsung
  • 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD Toshiba
  • nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X: 3x DisplayPort 1.3 (1.4 Ready), HDMI 2.0, Dual Link DVI-D
  • 11ac + Bluetooth 4.2, Dual Band 2.4&5 GHz, 1x1
  • Windows 10 Pro 64bit English
  • Microsoft® Office 2019 Professional
  • 2 x Dell UltraSharp U2717D 27” InfinityEdge QHD Monitors

I will provide a lot of photos for beginners like myself (click photos to embiggen).

Acknowledgement goes to HanoverB for much information and assistance during this project.

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XPS 8930 SE with which most will be familiar; air flow starved small form case; swing-out PSU

My unit has 2TB SSD only; no spinners, so all the HDD cages are removed.

 

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My CPU came with the "upgraded" heatsink/blower fan. Unfortunately, the wizards at Dell "downgraded" the top exhaust fan from 120mm to 92mm. The mission was to swap the 92mm top exhaust for for 120mm fan. Initial research revealed that the CPU power connector from the PSU was inconveniently located under the heatsink. So I decided to also upgrade the PSU while I had the heatsink removed and access to the CPU power connector.

 

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Gain access to the internal organs by removing, in this order; side cover -> optical drive -> front bezel -> top cover (see service manual).

 

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Make sure you have a clean, suitable work area with space for tools and no clutter.

 

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Since I was changing out the PSU I took a lot of photos so I would have a record of which connection plugged in where and cable routing. I recommend you do the same if you are a noob like me, but in the end, it was actually very easy.

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Remove the graphics card.

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The CPU fan header is also inconveniently located under the heatsink, so when you remove the blower fan the cable will still be connected. Set it aside gently on the mobo until the heatsink is removed and you can access the fan header connection.IMG_3712.JPG

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Once the heatsink is removed you can see the two fan headers and the CPU power connector.

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Clean the thermal paste from the CPU and disconnect the blower fan from the CPU fan header.

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One screw to easily remove the top exhaust fan bracket and fan.

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Familiarize yourself with the location of the connections. Fortunately, they are well labeled.

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This system board power connector can be stubborn, so be very careful. It has a release clip on the back. This would ONLY need to be removed if you are upgrading the PSU.

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I went with a Seasonic FOCUS 850 watt fully modular PSU. I was originally going to upgrade the OEM 460 watt PSU to 650 watt, but I followed the recommendation of HanoverB and got the 850 watt PSU and I am grateful for that, for reasons that will become more clear in a subsequent thread. You will also need to purchase separately a 6-Pin Slimline SATA 15-Pin SATA Power Cable to re-connect the optical drive to the PSU.

6-Pin Slimline SATA 15-Pin SATA Power Cable

 

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The Seasonic FOCUS PSU is a perfect fit and a very simple swap (4 screws).

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For the top exhaust fan I went with the recommended 120mm Noctua 3-pin fan that will spin at a quiet 1,200 rpm. You will need to acquire the Aurora R5 120mm top exhaust fan bracket, which is available on the big auction site.

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This photo shows the substantial difference between a 92mm fan and a 120mm fan. There is approximately 70% more area with the 120mm fan.

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Slide the new bracket and fan in place and tighten the screw. Note in this photo that I have installed the new CPU modular power cable from the Seasonic PSU. These cables have a lot more insulation and protection than the OEM wires. The wires coming out of the CPU power connector must be bent at 90 degrees and tucked under the fan to provide clearance for the heatsink when it is re-installed. The top exhaust fan power cable must also be bent over and tucked under the fan.

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Since the CPU fan header is underneath the heatsink, after you have applied thermal paste to the CPU, you will need to thread the blower fan cable through the heatsink and plug it into the CPU fan header first, and then carefully install the heatsink.

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Route the blower fan power cable so it is not pinched and install the blower fan.

 

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Now we are looking to install two front case fans.

 

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Carefully install the system board power cable and drape it and the CPU power cable towards the back of the case and out of the way.

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For the front intake fans, again, Noctua 120mm 3-pin 1,200 rpm fans. The Aurora R5 front cooling case fan bracket (7M0F5) can also be acquired on the big auction site and makes installation of the lower front fan very easy.

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I experimented with several different types of gasket/weather strip material for mounting the top front fan and found this type to work best.

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Cut the weather strip and make a frame by pressing the glue side against the case.

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Wedge the fan into the weather strip frame making sure it is tight against the front case mesh, and add the final piece as shown to hold the fan in place. Note the position of the fan power cable.

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The bottom front fan simply snaps into place in the XPS 8930 case with the Aurora R5 bracket. Again, note the position of the power cable.

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Reinstall the graphics card.

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Start connecting the modular cables from the PSU. Since the modular cables need to be "universal fit" and the XPS 8930 is a small form case, you will end up with a lot of extra cable length, so cable management is imperative.

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Add cables slowly and neatly secure them with zip ties, regularly checking clearance and that there is no binding as the PSU swing-out mechanism opens and closes.

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I chose to power the two front fans off the PSU with an SATA fan splitter cable.

 

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For front fans I choses these 120mm ModRight filters. This design includes added relief due to the two-tiered construction and the concave nature of the screen material. I tried to use magnetic tape for mounting the filters, but it did not hold well enough, so I ended up using double-sided tape across the corners, as shown.

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I left some magnetic tape strips in the indented areas to smooth the surface for the double sided tape. Areas that were vented to the inside of the case were sealed off with Gorilla tape so that the fans are drawing air from outside the case. The top cover has also been reinstalled in this photo.

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The filters are installed with the double-sided tape. The significance of the aforementioned "relief" can be seen here as the lower filter screen clears the case protrusion such that no cutting is required.

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The inserts on the front bezel need to be cut with a Dremel cutting wheel.

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The front bezel is reinstalled.

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The optical drive is reinstalled and connected to power using the previously mentioned 6-Pin Slimline SATA 15-Pin SATA Power Cable.

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Re-connect your peripherals and enjoy.

 

Added link to follow-up thread

XPS 8930 SE - CPU & GPU Water Cooling; External Rad

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July 16th, 2019 14:00

Wow, I added these fans, following your instructions without changing the power supply or heat sink. I found the heat sink had one of those pads installed from Dell instead of CPU paste. Before this, if I did anything with my i9 8930 (specs just like yours) it heated to 100c and boosted the fan to airport sound levels. Carefully, cleaning, adding good CPU paste, and adding those three big fans has me running cinebench with the processor maxxing about about 97c and never boosting the CPU fan to max levels. MY machine is virtually silent and cool. The workhorse I wanted. Thanks so much for the inspiration to do this!!! You rock. 

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July 16th, 2019 16:00

Who rocks?

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July 16th, 2019 18:00

HudsonHenry
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‎07-16-2019 04:29 PM

 

I'm happy that it worked out for you. Did you take any photos of your project you might want to share?

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July 19th, 2019 17:00

ivanmoe
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Post photos of your rig?

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July 19th, 2019 17:00

Doesn't the CPU blower spool up by the time it's hit 97c?

That's pretty toasty.

On my 8930, the PWM fans attached to the mobo go to max RPM at about 90c.

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July 22nd, 2019 11:00

Picture of my rig?

Hah, here's a configuration that doesn't work:

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Note the sound card beneath the graphics adapter (EVGA 1660 ti Black). The X-Fi blocks the fan on what is already a fairly hot graphics card. Bad idea. In running the Superposition Benchmark, I found that the EVGA card was basically just getting hotter as I ran successive tests. I shut it down at 77c and removed the sound card. The 1660 ti settled down nicely at 71c and wouldn't budge. Took a pic for you guys:

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But, that's not what I want to talk to you guys about today...

Any thoughts on which fan to hook up to the exhaust fan header? 

I've only got one PWM fan header to work with, and I want to get the most bang for the cooling-buck out of it.

I've currently got a 120mm/1500rpm Noctua Chromax in the exhaust opening that runs wide open off the PSU.

A second 120mm/1500rpm Chromax is in the lower/front intake and is connected to the PWM fan header, running at low speed (unless the CPU phones home).

If I reverse the fan connections, the GPU (EVGA 1660 XC Ultra) runs about 2c cooler, however CPU temps run 3c hotter.

One way or the other, the HSF and fan upgrades to a "plain Jane 8930" have quieted it down considerably.

 

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July 22nd, 2019 14:00

We can't see your photos until they are approved by the moderator. Looking forward though.

I am going to re-do my water loop so I was checking into fans. I currently have three Noctua NF-12A FLX 3-pin fans (top exhaust and 2 in the front) spinning at a constant 1200 rpm; 17.8 dB. I am thinking about switching to the Corsair ML 120 RGB LED Pro fans; max 1600 rpm; 25 dB; 1.78 mmH2O static pressure.

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July 22nd, 2019 15:00

I am going to re-do my water loop so I was checking into fans. I currently have three Noctua NF-12A FLX 3-pin fans (top exhaust and 2 in the front) spinning at a constant 1200 rpm; 17.8 dB. I am thinking about switching to the Corsair ML 120 RGB LED Pro fans; max 1600 rpm; 25 dB; 1.78 mmH2O static pressure.

Do we know how fast fans on the PWM headers are actually spinning? I have no idea, excepting that I'm relatively certain that they are awfully slow, UNTIL the mobo tells them to spool up. This is really at the heart of the question in my post above, BTW. On the one hand, I really want good output from my exhaust fan. On the other, I don't necessarily want to cripple the output of the fan that I put on the mobo header. Would it be advisable to put a fan on the header solely to keep the mobo happy, and run two dedicated fans that produce a discreet RPM off of the PSU? Seems like a goofy direction to take the system, but might be necessary to get the airflow that I'm looking for.

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July 22nd, 2019 17:00

still waiting for your pics to be mod approved.

Would it be advisable to put a fan on the header solely to keep the mobo happy, and run two dedicated fans that produce a discreet RPM off of the PSU? Seems like a goofy direction to take the system, but might be necessary to get the airflow that I'm looking for.

That is exactly why I went with the 3-pin fan option; not modulated by the BIOS. The Noctua fans I mentioned above are a quiet 17.8 dB at 1200 rpm. They come with reducers for 900 rpm and 700 rpm, but why would I want to slow down a quiet fan. My system cannot be "too cool".

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July 22nd, 2019 18:00

If you're happy with what you're seeing temp-wise, you might want to consider sticking with the 1200rpm fans. From where you are, each 100rpm that you add is going to impact the noise level. I can absolutely tell the difference between Noctua 1300rpm fans that I started with and the 1500rpm model that I'm using now.

OK, that is good information. I was not sure how much louder 25 db is that 17.8 db (times 3 fans). In my current configuration, I have the 3-pin top exhaust fan connected to the top fan header and the two 3-pin front intake fans connected to the CPU fan header with a y-splitter (blue). This is to avoid the BIOS fan error at start-up, since I no longer have a CPU fan.

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July 22nd, 2019 18:00

That is exactly why I went with the 3-pin fan option; not modulated by the BIOS. The Noctua fans I mentioned above are a quiet 17.8 dB at 1200 rpm. They come with reducers for 900 rpm and 700 rpm, but why would I want to slow down a quiet fan. My system cannot be "too cool".

So, you've chosen not to use the Case Fan header on the motherboard? Makes sense, in that it's really just effective at controlling High Speed fans. It's a shame, in the case of the 8930, that the implementation is pretty much 2-speed, slow and 5400rpm! If you're happy with what you're seeing temp-wise, you might want to consider sticking with the 1200rpm fans. From where you are, each 100rpm that you add is going to impact the noise level. I can absolutely tell the difference between Noctua 1300rpm fans that I started with and the 1500rpm model that I'm using now.

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July 25th, 2019 09:00

Reminds me of rebuilding a 1993 Dodge Lancer so it will run like a top. I would buy a model that stays cool.

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July 26th, 2019 20:00

Yea I guess, if you need all that power in that size case you have to pay the piper to keep it cool.

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July 26th, 2019 20:00

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‎07-25-2019 11:43 AM
Reminds me of rebuilding a 1993 Dodge Lancer so it will run like a top.
 
If you recheck the component specs at the very beginning if this thread, I don't think the 1993 Dodge Lancer analogy will hold true.

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July 26th, 2019 22:00

546insp
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‎07-26-2019 10:50 PM
Yea I guess, if you need all that power in that size case you have to pay the piper to keep it cool.
 
^^ This is true, and the best part is I am not done yet.
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