Thanks. Can you restore the image to the new hard drive, if it is blank, with no operating system? Would there be a problem in starting such a computer, when there is nothing on the hard drive?
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Thanks. Can you restore the image to the new hard drive, if it is blank, with no operating system? Would there be a problem in starting such a computer, when there is nothing on the hard drive?
As was stated, that's what Ghost does. You may want to go to the Symantec site and read about it.
With TrueImage 8 (www.acronis.com) (or buy at newegg.com - $33) you simply select "Clone" and TrueImage 8 will automatically transfer the entire contents of your original hard drive to the new hard drive even if the new hard drive is bigger. If it is, TrueImage 8 will proportionally resize the partitions upwards, all automatically.
Simply remove the original hard drive and replace it with the new hard drive and reboot.
The original hard drive can then be used as an external hard drive for storing disk images. TrueImage 8 allows you to very simply create backup images of your new internal hard drive and save them to your external hard drive (or CD's, DVD's, etc.). If you experience corruption on your new internal hard drive you can simply restore the image you saved of it while it ran well and you're back in business in minutes.
TrueImage 8 also copies and restores Dell's hidden diagnostic and pc restore partitions so you keep the functionality of Ctl+F11 for a Dell pc restore and also to boot into the Dell diagnostic partition with F12.
Ghost 9 does not have the capability to do what I outlined above. Ghost 2003 does but you have to boot to DOS. I own both and I don't use Ghost any longer since I bought TrueImage 8.
Ghost 9 comes with Ghost 2003 in the box (at least if you buy it standalone). Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost also includes a Recovery CD. The instructions IMPLY that you can boot to that CD and restore a Ghost image. Also, it should be noted that Ghost 9 is basically PowerQuest's Drive Image, which Symantec bought.
With TrueImage 8 (www.acronis.com) (or buy at newegg.com - $33) you simply select "Clone" and TrueImage 8 will automatically transfer the entire contents of your original hard drive to the new hard drive even if the new hard drive is bigger. If it is, TrueImage 8 will proportionally resize the partitions upwards, all automatically.
Simply remove the original hard drive and replace it with the new hard drive and reboot.
The original hard drive can then be used as an external hard drive for storing disk images. TrueImage 8 allows you to very simply create backup images of your new internal hard drive and save them to your external hard drive (or CD's, DVD's, etc.). If you experience corruption on your new internal hard drive you can simply restore the image you saved of it while it ran well and you're back in business in minutes.
TrueImage 8 also copies and restores Dell's hidden diagnostic and pc restore partitions so you keep the functionality of Ctl+F11 for a Dell pc restore and also to boot into the Dell diagnostic partition with F12.
Ghost 9 does not have the capability to do what I outlined above. Ghost 2003 does but you have to boot to DOS. I own both and I don't use Ghost any longer since I bought TrueImage 8.
"Ghost 9 comes with Ghost 2003 in the box (at least if you buy it standalone). Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost also includes a Recovery CD. The instructions IMPLY that you can boot to that CD and restore a Ghost image. Also, it should be noted that Ghost 9 is basically PowerQuest's Drive Image, which Symantec bought."
That's all correct. The problem I have with Ghost 9 is that it no longer includes the capability to image and restore an entire hard drive including all hidden partitions along with the MBR. You have to make multiple passes and even then, you can't capture the entire hard drive and MBR in one image. Therefore, when you try to restore and reboot, the reboot fails - no MBR and no functionality to Dell's hifdden partitons. Ghost 2003 is way too difficult to use and all operations occur under DOS in the old black screen environment. Why Symantec "dumbed down" the famous Ghost is a mystery and a disappointment but it's now useless to me.
TrueImage 8 is a winner because it uses a very simple and friendly Windows-type interface. It can capture the entire hard drive including hidden partitions and MBR in one swipe and restore it just as easily - no technical knowledge required. It's easier than anything I ever used for routine backups and restores. It also has the disk clone capabilities as well as scheduling, new disk partitioning and a host of other useful features - all simple to use.
In my opinion, TrueImage 8 has eclipsed and obsoleted Ghost and all of its variations. Another Symantec disaster.
Message Edited by mandatory on 04-22-2005 09:46 AM
"Thanks for the replies. I just downloaded TrueImage from Newegg, but am a little confused with some of the terms. I want to copy the old drive to the external, but I don't want to erase the contents of the old drive, yet. Would I use Clone or something else? Also, when you take out the old drive, and put in the new blank, then you reboot. Exactly what steps do you follow in this rebooting process? Do I use the TrueImage recovery disc that I created? After you reboot, with the new blank drive, what next? Sorry for these dumb questions."
Goof-proof Instructions:
1) Select "Disk Clone" and as you step through the screens, you will select "Do Not Destroy" data on old disk.
2) When Disk Clone is complete, in other words when your internal drive is 'cloned' or copied to your new external blank drive, simply remove the old internal drive and plug in the new blank which is now a clone and ready to reboot. Once you reboot, the new clone "magically" becomes the new internal hard drive. It's automatic!
3) The TI Recovery CD is used for other purposes which you'll grow into. Right now, use Disk Clone and get your new hard drive up and running. Then, go to the Acronis User Forum and join up. You'll see so many typical FAQ's you'll become an expert really quickly.
Thank you very much. Sounds like I can do this. One last question. My old drive has been slow and sluggish ever since I downloaded SP2, and then did a System Restore, because everything was so slow. If this new hard drive is still slow, would the only alternative be to do a new, fresh installation of XP and my personal files? The old drive is 30GB with 7GB of free space, and the new one is 100GB.
Thanks for the replies. I just downloaded TrueImage from Newegg, but am a little confused with some of the terms. I want to copy the old drive to the external, but I don't want to erase the contents of the old drive, yet. Would I use Clone or something else? Also, when you take out the old drive, and put in the new blank, then you reboot. Exactly what steps do you follow in this rebooting process? Do I use the TrueImage recovery disc that I created? After you reboot, with the new blank drive, what next? Sorry for these dumb questions.
@voss wrote:
Thank you very much. Sounds like I can do this. One last question. My old drive has been slow and sluggish ever since I downloaded SP2, and then did a System Restore, because everything was so slow. If this new hard drive is still slow, would the only alternative be to do a new, fresh installation of XP and my personal files? The old drive is 30GB with 7GB of free space, and the new one is 100GB.
Thanks again
If the drive is slow due to SP2, then the new drive will be also, so you'll want to do a CLEAN install on the new 100gb.
Your initial post indicates that you expect to clone your old drive to an external drive, then clone from the external drive to your new drive.
If your external drive carrier accepts a notebook drive, you can install your new drive in the external carrier and perform the clone operation in one step, then install the new drive in the notebook.
If your external drive carrier accepts only desktop drives, then it may be more appropriate to copy an image of your old drive onto the external drive and then restore that image to your new drive.
Another option with the I8100 is to install a second internal hard drive in the media bay. There may be some advantages with a second internal drive that you should consider against the advantages of an external drive, either on the Firewire port or on a USB2 adapter on the PCMCIA port. I will post more on your recent thread regarding external drives.
As Rick noted, if everything works correctly, your system will still be slow and sluggish, assuming the problem was due to complications with the installation of SP2. If your old drive is not defective, your new dive may be slightly faster and have more free space. It will not cure problems associated with the SP2 update.
A clean installation of Windows XP and SP2 will cure the slow and sluggish problem, if done correctly. There may also be other means of troubleshooting and correcting problems associated with the SP2 update, as noted in the Software / Windows Service Packs forum.
"Thank you very much. Sounds like I can do this. One last question. My old drive has been slow and sluggish ever since I downloaded SP2, and then did a System Restore, because everything was so slow. If this new hard drive is still slow, would the only alternative be to do a new, fresh installation of XP and my personal files? The old drive is 30GB with 7GB of free space, and the new one is 100GB."
When you clone the original drive to the new blank 100GB drive you will be transferring any existing problems along with everything else. The cloning or imaging process captures everything from the original drive and transfers it to the new drive, hence sluggishness. You get the bad with the good.
As has been suggested, a clean install usually clears up slowness due to system and general hard drive corruption. Even a Windows system restore can't help by the time you notice the sluggishness and it may even make things even worse.
It has been my experience with TrueImage 8 that cloning to a new hard drive is the better method for moving everything to a brand new hard drive. After that transfer is done, creating an image of the new drive for future restoration is the most efficient method to follow.
Whichever you choose to do, TrueImage 8 will pay for itself by allowing you to make quick and complete backups of your entire hard drive once you get it the way you want it. You can restore those images to full bootability in minutes. A real timesaver.
Message Edited by mandatory on 04-22-2005 01:47 PM
I would un-install TrueImage and restart the computer and reinstall it. Be sure that the install file location is selected as the programs folder, not my documents.
Yhe files you listed are for TrueImage 8 and should reside in the programs folder on your hard drive. Don't drag them there, do the uninstall and reinstall.
Thanks for all of the replies.
Mandatory,
I just found about a dozen files in My Documents associated with the download of TrueImage and the creation of the Rescue or Recovery Disc. One file is a DAT File,ramdisk, 7.89MB. Another DAT is kernel, 644KB. Others are bootwiz, timounter.dII, bootmenu, f11.cfg, mouse, spawn, etc. Do I need to keep these files, or can I delete them?
Thanks. By mistake, I dowloaded it twice. Once to the desktop, and once to My Documents. Could I just delete the files in My Documents?
Regarding the fresh install of XP, how do you restore all of things like email in Outlook Express, Favorites, Address Book, internet connection settings, etc? Would the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard do all of that? Would TrueImage be part of this process?
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As was stated, that's what Ghost does. You may want to go to the Symantec site and read about it.
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Here is the RIGHT way to do that:
With TrueImage 8 (www.acronis.com) (or buy at newegg.com - $33) you simply select "Clone" and TrueImage 8 will automatically transfer the entire contents of your original hard drive to the new hard drive even if the new hard drive is bigger. If it is, TrueImage 8 will proportionally resize the partitions upwards, all automatically.
Simply remove the original hard drive and replace it with the new hard drive and reboot.
The original hard drive can then be used as an external hard drive for storing disk images. TrueImage 8 allows you to very simply create backup images of your new internal hard drive and save them to your external hard drive (or CD's, DVD's, etc.). If you experience corruption on your new internal hard drive you can simply restore the image you saved of it while it ran well and you're back in business in minutes.
TrueImage 8 also copies and restores Dell's hidden diagnostic and pc restore partitions so you keep the functionality of Ctl+F11 for a Dell pc restore and also to boot into the Dell diagnostic partition with F12.
Ghost 9 does not have the capability to do what I outlined above. Ghost 2003 does but you have to boot to DOS. I own both and I don't use Ghost any longer since I bought TrueImage 8.
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"Ghost 9 comes with Ghost 2003 in the box (at least if you buy it standalone). Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost also includes a Recovery CD. The instructions IMPLY that you can boot to that CD and restore a Ghost image. Also, it should be noted that Ghost 9 is basically PowerQuest's Drive Image, which Symantec bought."
That's all correct. The problem I have with Ghost 9 is that it no longer includes the capability to image and restore an entire hard drive including all hidden partitions along with the MBR. You have to make multiple passes and even then, you can't capture the entire hard drive and MBR in one image. Therefore, when you try to restore and reboot, the reboot fails - no MBR and no functionality to Dell's hifdden partitons. Ghost 2003 is way too difficult to use and all operations occur under DOS in the old black screen environment. Why Symantec "dumbed down" the famous Ghost is a mystery and a disappointment but it's now useless to me.
TrueImage 8 is a winner because it uses a very simple and friendly Windows-type interface. It can capture the entire hard drive including hidden partitions and MBR in one swipe and restore it just as easily - no technical knowledge required. It's easier than anything I ever used for routine backups and restores. It also has the disk clone capabilities as well as scheduling, new disk partitioning and a host of other useful features - all simple to use.
In my opinion, TrueImage 8 has eclipsed and obsoleted Ghost and all of its variations. Another Symantec disaster.
Message Edited by mandatory on 04-22-2005 09:46 AM
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"Thanks for the replies. I just downloaded TrueImage from Newegg, but am a little confused with some of the terms. I want to copy the old drive to the external, but I don't want to erase the contents of the old drive, yet. Would I use Clone or something else? Also, when you take out the old drive, and put in the new blank, then you reboot. Exactly what steps do you follow in this rebooting process? Do I use the TrueImage recovery disc that I created? After you reboot, with the new blank drive, what next? Sorry for these dumb questions."
Goof-proof Instructions:
1) Select "Disk Clone" and as you step through the screens, you will select "Do Not Destroy" data on old disk.
2) When Disk Clone is complete, in other words when your internal drive is 'cloned' or copied to your new external blank drive, simply remove the old internal drive and plug in the new blank which is now a clone and ready to reboot. Once you reboot, the new clone "magically" becomes the new internal hard drive. It's automatic!
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Thanks again
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Message Edited by mandatory on 04-22-2005 01:47 PM
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I would un-install TrueImage and restart the computer and reinstall it. Be sure that the install file location is selected as the programs folder, not my documents.
Yhe files you listed are for TrueImage 8 and should reside in the programs folder on your hard drive. Don't drag them there, do the uninstall and reinstall.
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Mandatory,
I just found about a dozen files in My Documents associated with the download of TrueImage and the creation of the Rescue or Recovery Disc. One file is a DAT File,ramdisk, 7.89MB. Another DAT is kernel, 644KB. Others are bootwiz, timounter.dII, bootmenu, f11.cfg, mouse, spawn, etc. Do I need to keep these files, or can I delete them?
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Regarding the fresh install of XP, how do you restore all of things like email in Outlook Express, Favorites, Address Book, internet connection settings, etc? Would the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard do all of that? Would TrueImage be part of this process?
Sorry for the questions.