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Ask the Expert: NetWorker Day-to-Day Operations - A Customer's Perspective

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Welcome to this EMC Support Community Ask the Expert conversation. This discussion will focus on day-to-day NetWorker operations from the perspective of an EMC customer.

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Dan Gauld (an EMC Partner) is in residency working at Mainland Information Systems.  Dan is focused in the area of backup/recovery and data storage for the last 8 years, and has performed numerous assessments, deployments and upgrades for NetBackup, Backup Exec, Networker, Avamar and Commvault infrastructures. Dan writes at backupbuddha.ca about backup recovery for both the enterprise as well as the home consumer. You can follow Dan on twitter @backupbuddha.

This discussion begins on July 29 and concludes on August 9. Get ready by following this page to receive updates in your activity stream or through email.

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August 7th, 2013 13:00

Hello

1) Looks like you do have long running sessions >24 hours..wohhoo..we are not alone..

what are they and is that a concern? maybe big size or hdfs?

2) Do you do cap plan for your backup volumes/types/size using native reports from Networker? or using some other 3rd party tools?

3) are you happy with cloning performance? how do you manage that and how long typically finishes for you?

that's all for now...

Thanks!


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August 7th, 2013 18:00

Hey Guys, and by Guys I mean the two people who are actually reading this.

Wow, today...wow. I was honestly contemplating faking an appendicitis attack or something to get out of work today. Being the professional I am, I sucked it up and put on some pants to go to work. I really hate wearing pants. Don't you?

Sorry for the lack of content posting going on here. It was a long weekend up here and we need to take advantage of those. The weather was great; I went to a BBQ and ate far too much food. I then fell asleep on an empty couch I found, and then my wife woke me up and took me home. Mr. Excitement? You know it.

So today completely defeated me. I have surrendered to my deck to continue our adventures in NetWorker.

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I wanted to discuss two important commands.

nsim and nsrck.

Exciting right? You're welcome.

Let’s talk about nsrim. "nsrim is used to manage the networker online file and media indexes." A more complete description of the command from the NetWorker Command reference Guide reads...

"...nsrim will automatically invoke nsrck -L 3 after updating the save set’s browse

and retention times in the media database to remove client file indexes that have

exceeded the retention policy. If a problem is detected, a more thorough check will be

automatically performed on the client file index in question.

If you believe an index may be corrupt, you can manually run a higher level..."

Nsrim is run at the completion of the savegrp command if it had not been run in the last 24 hours. It identifies this by checking the timestamp of /nsr/mm/nsrim.prv. NSRIM will update the save set browse and retention times in the media database then invoke nsrck to remove any entries in the client file indexes that have expired. THis process is especially important to ensure tape and disk volumes are recycled. A tape or disk volume will become eligible to be reused when all of the savesets are identified as recyclable. 

If a consistency problem is encountered, a more thorough check is automatically performed on the client file index in question. It is best to run outside the backup window. It can impact backup performance which is why some administrators prefer to cron this.

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August 8th, 2013 02:00

Hi Dan,

If your local DD breaks down, how will you recover the data? Have you made any (disaster) recovery plan?

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August 8th, 2013 09:00

Hey Tim,

A fully articulated DR plan is on our project roadmap. We do replicate data to a secondary DD and to tape.

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August 8th, 2013 20:00

Hey Thierry101! Ha! Yes we do Not my preference, but you have to work with what you have. All the culprits are NDMP backups to tape. I don't lose any sleep over it.  I do a monthly report for my client using a mix of native NetWorker reports and DPA. I myself don't get to deep into the analysis to help plan budget. I'll provide the requested metrics to mgmt and let them deal with that, I'm really not that smart.

We are using the optimized cloning and Its pretty good. I would like some more granularity as far as the scheduling, but other than that it's fine. We had only recently reconfigured the cloning from the GUI, previously we had used some scripts. The GUI gives me a better idea of what is going on.

We clone data from DD to secondary DD and also clone from DD to tape. In some cases I have at any time 3 copies of some datasets at these locations. The DD's are kind of new, so we a currently still getting organized as to what data will be written where. We have two data centers, with 1 DD990 at each location. The plan is to identify the location of all my backup clients and direct the backups to the local DD, then clone the data from it's primary to it's secondary. Does that make sense?

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August 8th, 2013 21:00


I am afraid this thread will be locked next week.

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August 8th, 2013 21:00


we have similar setup...how long your DAG exchange 2010 (if you have) clone to opposite DD takes?

do you dedicate them out ?

Will share my day to day task next week.........

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August 8th, 2013 22:00

Dan, I'm a total newbie to Networker, thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have your site bookmarked for future reference.

Is this nsrim a command that is scheduled automatically ?   or needs to be invoked by the admin?

Would output of the command be present in the Daemon log ?

It seems similar to Garbage collect in avamar and or expire inventory in TSM  just trying to put the function of it into

terms I understand.

Nsrim is run at the completion of the savegrp command if it had not been run in the last 24 hours. It identifies this by checking the timestamp of /nsr/mm/nsrim.prv. NSRIM will update the save set browse and retention times in the media database then invoke nsrck to remove any entries in the client file indexes that have expired. THis process is especially important to ensure tape and disk volumes are recycled. A tape or disk volume will become eligible to be reused when all of the savesets are identified as recyclable.

Thanks

Jack D.

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August 9th, 2013 08:00

Hey Thierry101! we dont use Networker to protect exchange. They instead use snapmanager on Netapp.

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August 9th, 2013 08:00

Hey JackD. I wanted to do this specific topic for guys like you. It wasnt very long ago I landed here to take care of NetWorker, although I was well experience in other backup products, Networker at times really made my head hurt.

NSRIM will run automatically.You can confirm by checking the access time on the /nsr/mm/nsrim.priv file.

I have seen occurrances where nsrim was running but not completeing. we found orphanded processes from previous attempts. Are you having an issue with media reclamation or space issuses on disk targets? It is similar to avamar garbage collect, without the activity restrictions. Althiugh it can be run when backups are going. Its best to run when quiet.

send me a note in my ECN inbox and keep in touch

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August 9th, 2013 10:00

Hey everyone, I wanted to write more here, but it will have to wait for another time. Crazy busy day here

I want to thanks EMC and Mark Brown for the invite to share some knowledge here. I want to leave you with some links to some great documents that should be mandatory reading.

Theory of Core Operations - I discovered this document last year. It looks like an amazing document on all aspects of NetWorker.

Guide to NSRADMIN -  Preston over at nsrd.info wrote a great micromanual focused on nsradmin alone. You need to know nsradmin

Enterprise Systems Backup and Recovery: A Corporate Insurance Policy - A great book and worth every penny. If you are a NetWorker admin, one day Preston's website will save you. Eventually it will happen. He provides great content and engages in the community. Really, he is my Yoda.

Also, I want to thank EMC support. These people are amazing. They have saved me on many occasions, talked me down from many ledges. I call them all the time. Helena and Lionel in Toronto are great. Also shout outs to Erik Webb and David Muetzenberg.

Keep in touch. feel free to add me here on ECN, follow me @backupbuddha on twitter and at backupbuddha.ca.

Also check out mainland.ca and @mainlandis on twitter.

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August 9th, 2013 13:00

This Ask the Expert event has now ended. Many thanks to se7en (aka Dan) for hosting the discussion and for the great resources above!

Please feel free to continue this discussion, though it will not be formally moderated. Other subject matter experts on NetWorker are welcome to post their thoughts and experiences on the topic. Thank you to all who participated in this event!

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August 9th, 2013 19:00

Dan,

 

Thank you for sharing just great information.  Your Pain is my GAIN

Appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to share your experience.

I'm going to be checking the NSRADMIN information @ nsradmin.info  It's always good to have a Yoda in your corner!

JD

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