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January 1st, 2020 02:00

7010 gpu and psu upgrade

Hello,

I have a Dell 7010 that I am looking to upgrade to allow for gaming. Power supply is being upgraded to 750w unto but I am finding conflicting information on gpu’s that will both run and physically fit due to the mother board configuration. I am looking at an AMD rx 580 but it looks like it will not fit due to the power supply cable to the mother board. Are there any alternate GPU’s that would fit this mother board? Looking for a gpu with minimum of 4gb.

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January 1st, 2020 04:00

even my GTX1650 turing class fits in all my dells, even back to 790

why  not just buy card that is not too long 10" (245mm) or less and run it. (at new egg, they do returns ! )

buy it , try it,?

with card in hand if it has AUX ports, 6 or 8p or both ALL PINS must have power, yelloeblack or it fails, OK?

I can play any game  with above, on my 3020mt. (all dells here)

if you open the case, and look you see 10.5' long cards or less fit.

you can see that.  looked. first. with ruler in hand

the PSU real has 6 and 8 pin PCI-e cables sets. that run any card you can name.

I have  Corsair TX750W here, that is 25amps on both the 5/12vdc rails and 62 amps on the 12v single raid.

comes with this huge near endless cable bundle that will run anything you want. anything.

even my 300 watt   runs.  my test power hog card, just to see if all 3d apps run and do.

its now 2020

watch out for GPU cards that only run on new PC's,called UEFI class 3 (III) only cards,  the NEW PAIN begins now. 2020. 

there are some wild cards (12 makers 100s of models each)

some cards with special top SIDE (up)heat spreaders  that hit dells lame DDR BANK

MT actual 7010 , some folks run smaller sized PCs with external PSU. not posting photo of yours (not good)

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January 1st, 2020 04:00

MT, DT, SFF, USFF   what PC is it , there are 4 PC

your  only clue is the PSU

gaming at what level, 10,000 game exists.  always  say the game first. or the slowest of 100 owned.

what FPS do you expect from un named GAME, this be first, (what you need,. not what fits)

conflicting sure if you read posts on wrong PC why would you expect not? no PC stated at all .

you can in fact upgrade the MT with new proper PSU, sure can if an MT

you can put 1000s of models of GPU, endless,

Ive posted his vast time and so I do it one more time,  here is what others did and posted to benchmarks

17,000 hits, in fact,  amazing now,  and many of those have a new PSU,

 

Dell PCs, may have a ATX shaped MT PSU but have no ATX full set of cables

to fix that on any MT you just buy a real PSU, and use that

on the 7020mt or 9020mt an adapter is need. not yours.

why post lacking such a 1st thing key fact  , STEP ONE FAILED.

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June 29th, 2020 19:00

I've been thinking of the GTX 1650 as an upgrade.
Will the default PSU be enough for the power hungry, or should I upgrade?

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June 29th, 2020 19:00

What size is your PC and what CPU do you have?  A 75w GTX 1650, or the low profile version, will run on a stock PSU in the MT, DT, or SFF.  But is it the best to go with your CPU without bottleneck issues?  Don't know until we know what CPU you have.

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June 30th, 2020 04:00

I have the MT model and the GTX 1650 that I'm planning to buy is this one:
https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1650-gtx-1650-d6-aero-itx-oc/p/N82E16814137530

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June 30th, 2020 23:00

Optiplex 7010 MT + GTX 1650 + YouTube List 

Optiplex 7010 MT + GTX 1050 ti + YouTube List 

I link the above videos because you'll see that the stock PSU's in the MT and smaller versions power 75w cards.

Another one in this forum might disagree with me on it, but he doesn't disagree with the videos themselves, other than he thinks videos don't prove anything.   That same person did point out that the blue PCI-e x16 slot is for 75w cards.

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July 6th, 2020 08:00

I have 7010 DT, i5-3470, 4gb DDr3 x 4, 7200RPM 3.5" HDD and a standard motherboard that comes with OptiPlex. Based on newegg.com my PC would use 265 Watts with a GeForce GTX 1050. However, my PSU is the standard 250 Watt supply that comes with the OptiPlex. 

So could you please help with queries? 

Firstly, do I even need to upgrade the PSU? (I know there are extremely conflicting posts online) if the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti OC Low Profile is added the PSU is 15 Watts insufficient. Is this likely to cause a great problem? I don't own a fire extinguisher for example.

Secondly, if I do upgrade the PSU (I'm a noob with PC builds), what's the difficulty level? And any thoughts around this would be appreciated.

Lastly, in 2020, are there any suitable GPU's comparable to the GTX 1050 that consume more like 50 Watts that would be a good alternative?

Yo - thanks for your help - peace.

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July 7th, 2020 00:00

As for a PSU upgrade, the only way to do it on a 7010 DT is to have a PSU that sits outside the case.

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July 7th, 2020 00:00

Well, I don't know enough about newegg to know how you got that assessment.  Is the 265w a.c. input or d.c. output?  A.C. input for the psu is rated at 4.4A x 120v = 528w max.

The best GPU to go with your CPU is the GTX 1050 ti (LP version).

Graphic card and processor will work great together:

Intel Core i5-3470 (Clock speed at 100%) with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (Clock speed at 100%) x1 will produce only 0.42% of bottleneck. - PC Builds

You saw the video links above.

If you want to go with a lower watt card, go with the 30w GT 1030 GDDR5.

Speaking of fire extinguisher, Dell and good name brand PSU's protect themselves from overloads by shutting down.  I wouldn't suggest or recommend a card that would knowingly shut down or overload your PSU.

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May 19th, 2021 02:00

Sorry to bring this post back up. So are you saying Brad that if I install an Intel i5-3470 and GTX 1050 Ti LP, that I wouldn’t have to upgrade the PSU?
Also, would upgrading to a SSD lower the wattage consumption as well? I read only by just a little.

just to clarify I have a 7010 DT

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May 19th, 2021 09:00

Hi @Mrjtouchet ,

No need to be sorry for using this thread.

And yes, you can use I5-3470 and GTX 1050 ti without upgrading PSU.  While this is outside of Dell specs, I am relaying what other users have done for years without consequence.  I'm sure you saw the videos I linked above.  Also, when it comes to GPU suggestions, I haven't had any negative feedback.  While there may be associated risk, those risks haven't appeared yet.

Yes, SSD will lower wattage.  An HDD is 12v and an SSD is 5v.  You'll be much happier with an SSD than an HDD, especially if you game.  Some people keep their games on a 2nd HDD and/or use 2nd HDD for storage.

As long as I went there, a really good option is an adapter that can hold 2 SSD's or two 2.5 inch HDD's, or a combo thereof.  Then an HDD and an SSD can go in the same bay.

My favorite single SSD adapter:  https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Adapter-Mounting-Bracket-Interface/dp/B01LZWX6PD/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=ssd+adapter&qid=1621442390&sr=8-6.

Remember, adapter still goes in original blue caddy.

One example of a dual mounting bracket:  https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Dual-Mounting-Bracket-CSSD-BRKT2/dp/B016498CK0/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=ssd+adapter+that+can+hold+2+ssd%27s&qid=1621442527&sr=8-9 

Redxps630 has a blue dual adapter that he links, but I couldn't find it.

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May 19th, 2021 10:00

To clarify - No negative feedback from actual users.

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May 22nd, 2021 15:00

"And yes, you can use I5-3470 and GTX 1050 ti without upgrading PSU. While this is outside of Dell specs, I am relaying what other users have done for years without consequence. "

"To clarify - No negative feedback from actual users."

@bradthetechnut 

I disagree entirely based on forum complaints about power supply failures in DT SFF models as well as direct experience with said failures while doing authorized Dell service on these models.

I am a user and there are others who have had issues with 75W cards.

JNPVV OptiPlex 7010 SFF Power Supply AC240AS

7GC81 OptiPlex 7010 DT Power Supply H250AD

841Y4 Optiplex 7010 MT Power Supply D275EM

Note 75w card supported with DELL 275w but only 50w card supported with Dell 250W 

A 75W card in a 50W slot or 25W slot is not supported. The consequence with use is a dead PC. Worst case the psu puts out too much voltage and fries everything including the data on the hard drive.

During power supply failure you can FRY and DIE everything inside the case.  RAM, CPU, HDD, Motherboard, etc.

Dell does not support this because 12v 5.5 Amps is required to power the card long with 3.3v 3 Amps

Slot power rating is PER SLOT so with 4 slots thats 4x the power for the table below. 5.5A + 2.1A + .5A + .5A

= 8.6 amps 12V and 12 amps 3.3v this is where the 142W bare minimum combined power needed for 3.3v/5v rails is involved.  SFF rates this rail set at 90W max.

This is also why only MT supports 75W GPU.

X4 wired slots are 25W max meaning the Black slot in some models is 25W max.

The BLUE Primary Slot supports 75W only in the MINI TOWER. Note in DT it says 50W max.

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January 16th, 2023 11:00

Hello speedstep,

Have the DELL Optiplex 7010 DT form factor ( (INSTALLED: Windows 10,  Seasonic SS-300TGW  Active PFC 80 Gold plus 300 Watt PSU that replaced the OEM DELL model H250AD-01 250 W Max Output , 32 GB DDR SDRAM 1600 mHz, BIOS Version A29).

Currently installed the invidia GEFORCE GT 1030 LP graphics card (Minimum Recommended System Power 300W / Graphics Card Power 30W / Bus Support PCIe 3.0), Previously had the AMD RADEON HD 7570 installed (Suggested PSU 250 W / TDP 60 W /Bus Interface PCIe 2.0 x16) LP card installed.

When  the card was installed in same location as the AMD card, SLOT 1 / Blue  (PCI-e x16 Connector), referenced by  9  in Photo 5 below, the Desktop began to shut down after 1 minute of inactivity and unable to change the power settings shown in Photos1 & 2. When I restart the Desktop and hit F2 to and enter the BIOS settings, the Desktop does not shut down after a given length of inactivity, until I exit the BIOS settings!
Have also tried the steps shown in Photo 3 however, was unable to locate Attributes (double click on attributes).
Did not experience the inactivity issue with the AMD RADEON HD 7570 LP graphics card installed.
 
In BIOS, Deep Sleep Control and SERR messages are both disabled (some graphic cards require SERR to be Disabled). 
The power rating information for the Seasonic SS-300TGW Micro  ATX / TFK Gold 80+ Desktop Power Supply is shown in Photo 4
 
PHOTO 6 shows the OptiPlex 7010 DT power specifications provided by DELL for the 7010 DT.
 

Any additional information regarding any additional information to what may be causing the issue, and how it can be resolved would be greatly appreciated! 

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PHOTO 2

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PHOTO 4

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PHOTO 5

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PHOTO 6

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January 16th, 2023 12:00

Speedstep hasn't been on this forum since last mid-Sept.  No need to duplicate post.  https://www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/ZOTAC-nvidia-GEFORCE-GT-1030-graphics-card-PN-288-1N476-120Z8/m-p/8334165#M65633 

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