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February 9th, 2013 10:00

Inspiron 570 Ultimate "Uber" Upgrade Guide including Overclocking

After seen multiple users asking for help on this topic and loosing the touch with those users, I decided that it is time to put together all information and make it as nice as possible. When the project will be completed I will state here completed (it will take me some time to put it together). For now it is

WORK IN PROGRESS

Little warning first to users who still hold any type of warranty for their Inspirons. Upgrading HDD (Hard Drive), RAM (memory) and installing Video Card would not void your warranty, PSU (Power Supply Unit) could be questionable. Dell generally do not recommend changing CPU (processors) [as soon as you think about changing motherboard, your PC is no longer Dell, unless if it Dell motherboard from another model, but then it is Frankenstein, in this case you can look for help at Tom's harware forum, but not here], however I would present the list of Dell tested processors, and there would be another 2 processors not tested by Dell. Also, you can change the case to make your Inspiron look nicer, or to improve cooling, I would say - it would void warranty as well. Lastly, at the end, I would talk about overclocking, this would not just void any warranties, it would place you at my mercy, since I am the only one left here who done this and still willing to help others, just remember, as soon as you decide to go this path, you might endanger you PC - it could even catch fire and burn your place, so basically you are doing it on your own risk. I am considering, if you overclock Inspiron 570 you are agree with possibilities listed above and would not hold the grudge (or hold responsible) against me or any ohter members of this forum if you become homeless due to the fire caused by overclocking, LOL.

I will start from less invasive and easier parts to more difficult and dangerous.

The guide would consist of the following parts

Part 1. RAM upgrade.

Part 2. Video Card upgrade.

Part 3. PSU upgrade

Part 4. Processor (CPU) upgrade

Part 5. CPU cooling and general cooling in the original case.

Part 6. CPU cooling and general cooling in the larger case.

Part 7. Overclocking.

If I miss something I would come back and fix it, I would try to keep everything in one thread. When I would consider the Guide completed, I would say so.

First things first - information. All Inspiron 570 manuals, next Driver download page easy and Driver download page not so easy.

Prior asking questions, I would assume that you read corresponding manuals, so I don't have to explain you, for an example, how to open your case, well I hope you understand what I mean.

Part 1. RAM upgrade.

According to the official Dell manuals, Inspiron 570 is limited to 8 GB of maximum 1333 MHz memory, however it was found that 16 GB of 1333 MHZ is recognized, faster RAM would slowed down to 1333 MHz. So far no one complained that theirs RAM (manufacturers) were not recognized by Dell. Generally it is recommended to use Crucial, however I used Corsair and did not noticed any problems. Also, try to avoid tall heat spreaders, especially if planning to use tower push-pull fan configuration - push fan may block access to the nearest to CPU cooler RAM slots.

Let Me try to explain.

Unfortunately this is the only picture where you can see the situation.

This is the Diagram with the same color code RAM.

4.  DIMM 1 - most likely could be affected by large CPU Cooler

5. DIMM 2 - may be affected by large CPU Cooler

6. DIMM 3 - not going to be affected by large CPU Cooler

7. DIMM 4 - not going to be affected by large CPU Cooler

This info is from manual

Recommended Memory Configuration

Model

One module

Two modules

Three modules

Four modules

570

DIMM4

DIMM4
DIMM3

DIMM4
DIMM3
DIMM2

DIMM4
DIMM3
DIMM2
DIMM1


Part 2. Video Card upgrade.

So you know, our Inspiron has only 300 watt PSU, so without changing PSU the strongest Video Card upgrade would be Sapphire (recommended) 7750, or cheaper and a bit less powerful version is 6670, for anything above this you would have to upgrade your PSU.

Some people asked if the Video Card and RAM slots would "intercept", the answer is no. However, in order to change or add RAM, Video Card has to be removed to allow RAM holder clips to open, this is approximate picture below, the maximum length of the card is about 12 inches or 30 cm, in this case Video Card would go under HDD so you would have to measure upper clearance .

Watch out for 2 SATA slots next to Video Card - they could be covered by Vcard heatsink, if this is happening you have to use sata angle cables.

I realized that I did not cover much of Video Cards here. So a little more. As you notice I placed MSI 550 TI OC Cyclone for its exceptional cooling ability, this card is very tall, but short, measurements are (L)"x(H)"x(W)", 8.27" x 5.51" x 1.38". I will add more cards here as users will report.

XFX Double D FX-787A-CDFC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card 9.5" x 4.4" x 1.5".

Part 3. PSU upgrade.

This is general guide for PSU recommended by MSI, I would add at least 50 watt to your final decision, however the more the better, some say 100 watt is very good idea, would not argue here. Any standard PSU will fit inside (there could be small bending of some metallic parts of the case required, but nothing major). Just make sure that new PSU has 24 pin or 20+4 pin main MOBO (motherboard) power connector plus 4 pin ancillary power connector, 4 SATA power cables, and at least one 6 pin Video Card PSU connector. It could be modular or not. Modular are much more expensive, with regular you would have to improvise hiding keeping cables out of the way.

Here are a few pictures of regular PSU, so you see that cable management can be a headache.

To my best knowledge the recommended PSU manufactures are XFX, OCZ, Seasonic, Enermax and Corsair, I don't see so many complains about Thermaltake and Antec. Store brands and surprisingly cheap PSU should be avoided if you want stability and assurance that nothing will burn or PSU will last for long time with the same specs over the time.

Next I used Extreme PSU calculator to show that our standard PSU can support 7750 and Phenom 965 together, no PSU upgrade necessary, if no overclock.

System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: Regular - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 C3 3400 MHz Deneb
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR2 SDRAM
Video Card 1: AMD Radeon HD 7750


Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
DVD-RW/DVD+RW Drive: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Fans
Regular: 2 Fans 92mm;  
LED: 1 Fan 92mm;  
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 90 %
 
Minimum PSU Wattage: 252 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 302 Watts

Inspiron 570 stock PSU is 300 watt and it is known that this number is somewhat underrated, so 302 watt is O.K. Now, PSU was in my Inspiron 570 model was HIPRO HP-P3017F3, below are the specs for anyone to chew.

+5V = 22A, +12V = 18A, +3.3V = 17A, +5V aux = 2A, -12V = 0.8A; Special comment "+5V and +3.3V SHALL NOT EXCEED 160 W".

If you need replacement, you can get it from here new for $38. Not exactly the same, but very similar.

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August 15th, 2013 17:00

Hey, I have a couple of questions. Do I need this Arctic paste thing when installing the cooler, or can I just pop mine off, and put the new one in?

August 15th, 2013 17:00

Yes you need the thermal paste. You can use Arctic paste, but I recommend using a thermal compound that is nonconductive. That way if you put too much you can't hurt any components

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August 15th, 2013 19:00

Thanks for helping SobeNirvana, I can just add a few things.

I found this list of tested thermal compounds, it is from 2007, but it still provides the idea of different brands.

I think temperatures provided in Celsius.

|results|


|*** thermal interface|
Tital Nano Blue 59
Panasonic 58.5
KPT-8 (reference) 56.6

|decent thermal interface|
Data Cooler 57
Titan TTG S-104 , S-103 56.7
Pasta Siliconowa 56.6
Zalman CSL 850 56.5
Noctua 56.5
Stars Silver 56.5
Stars 700/Aero 700 56
GeIL GL-TCP1b 55.6
Thermopox 55.6
КПТ-8(BeO) 55.5
Sil more 55.5
Shin-Etsu(white) 55.5
W.P. 55.5
STARS (white, soft pack) 55.5
AKT-842 55
Fanner 420 55
Koolance 55

|good thermal interface|
Arctic Alumina 55.5
Arctic Silver-3 54.6
AOS 54.5
DC-340 54.5
Asetek 54.5
Arctic Silver-5 53.5
Arctic Ceramique 53.5

|great thermal interface|
Apus TMG 301 52.5
Gigabyte 52.5
Titan Nano Grease TTG-G30010 52.5
GFC-M1 D90T8-010 52.5
Shin-Etsu MicroSi G-751 52

|outstanding thermal interface|
Arctic Cooling MX-1 51.5
Shin-Etsu MicroSi MPU-3.7 50.5
Coollaboratory Liquid Pro 50

P.S. Coollaboratory Liquid Pro can only be used with copper or silver though because it will damage aluminum.

Here everyone should look for performance versus price and availability - there could be excellent product, but it will cost you a fortune to get it or it is available only in the other country. Say for an example Arctic Silver 5 - it is available in RadiShack, which is everywhere in the USA, it is 2 minutes walk from me, so I have chosen AS5 for that reason.

If anyone have more questions, please start new thread and post here a link.

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September 21st, 2013 18:00

hi kisianik, i was wondering if you kno how much clearance height there is under the hard drive in the i570 case. I was planning on buying a 7950 www.newegg.com/.../Product.aspx but it will probably have to go under the HDD and im not sure if it will have enough clearance. you can PM me on Toms Hardware if you'd like. User: Jrizzz

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September 25th, 2013 15:00

This is from my old archives, I can not recheck this right now.

Approximate space between motherboard and side panel or Hard Drive - basically how tall Video Card can be.

Under Hard Drive - 4 inches or 100 millimeters, if you have only one Hard Drive, you can move it to another spot, closer to DVDR, in this situation space will increase to 5 inches or 130 millimeters.

Now the length of Video Card.

Length to HDD mount is 9.5 inches or 240 millimeters, maximum length of video card to fit Inspiron 570 is 13-13.5 inches or 340 millimeters.

This is the best, I could measure, taking to consideration that I only have "naked" Inspiron 570 case, without any internal parts.

I hope it will help all users.

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September 26th, 2013 16:00

Thanks. The HDD was not in the way so i measured the HDD mount to motherboard and its a good 5 and 3/4 inches so just about any card would fit under there. Just wanted to double check with you to be sure.

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November 6th, 2013 17:00

I am pretty sure I'm going with the Phenom II 965 BE because its a good upgrade from the Sempron 140. I just have no clue about how the cooling works and would like to know which one is the best for this processor before getting it. Here is a link to my own thread so please reply here - http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19530767.aspx

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November 6th, 2013 18:00

I can confirm that an xfx Double D Radeon HD 7950 will fit in the original inspiron 570 case. HOWEVER, I had to buy longer SATA cables (HDD and optical drive to mobo) so they will reach around and over the card. Also, the bracket that slides on top of the expansion slots that screws in and secures the card, will not fit properly after the card is installed. I ended up just leaving it unattached, which I don't think should matter because the card is more than enough secured anyway. Apart from those two issues, everything is okay.

My current system: Athlon ii x3 435 @2.9ghz, 2x 4gb PNY Optima 1333mhz RAM and 2x 1gb sticks of the original RAM For a total of 10gb RAM. and yes, it is recognized. Corsair CX500 500 watt psu, and Radeon HD 7950.

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January 22nd, 2014 16:00

Can I overclock the stock AMD Athlon II X2 250 processor with the stock motherboard? Or does that not work?

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May 14th, 2014 16:00

Thanks for this amazing guide!!! I have a question about the Graphics card. I just bought a PowerColor TurboDuo AXR7 265 2GBD5-TDHE/OC Radeon R7 265 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support Video card. Will this work on my pc?

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June 22nd, 2014 19:00

Outstanding guide man! Just finished upgrading my 570 with the TX3 (push-pull) and MSI R9 270 Gaming Card in the original case. I'm running 37C idle and 40C on high. The GPU stays around 31C since I mounted two side fans in front of it pushing in air constantly at maximum RPMs. Now just gotta slap on the side filters when they arrive. Thanks again man. P.S. That back plate was such a headache to remove. I found myself using the card method and then fashioning some of the plastic from my fans packaging to make a type of plastic hacksaw that really cut my time in half removing the glue (no pun intended). Happy modding all :emotion-15:

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September 10th, 2014 17:00

 I have a Dell Inspiron 570 and already got a 650 watt power supply and got my eye on this AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8 GHz Quad-Core processor and is hoping the mobo could drive it. Haven't put a finger on a gpu yet but I'm working on it

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September 11th, 2014 12:00

Ok i havent ever upgraded cpu before, but it seems the i have to remove the whole mobo to upgrade the cpu??

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September 12th, 2014 00:00

Unfortunately only Phenom family can work here, forget about newer processors.

On the positive side, Phenom II x4 965 BE benchmark is 4272, look at link. Your choice is only a few points above - 4572.

Now, if you get larger case for about $50 at most, and better cooling, you can do what I did - overclock 965 to 4 GHz, I tested my benchmark around 5050-5100, which beats this new Athlon!

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September 12th, 2014 00:00

Just for everyone, small edition to my setup right now is - more HDDs.

Right now I am upgrading storage size, have already 2 RED NAS WD HDDs, 2 TB and 3TB, planning to add one more 3 TB WD RED NAS, so at the end I will have 9TB storage plus SSD.

That definitely was not on the Dell's list of upgrades

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