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February 9th, 2013 10:00

Inspiron 570 Ultimate "Uber" Upgrade Guide including Overclocking

After seen multiple users asking for help on this topic and loosing the touch with those users, I decided that it is time to put together all information and make it as nice as possible. When the project will be completed I will state here completed (it will take me some time to put it together). For now it is

WORK IN PROGRESS

Little warning first to users who still hold any type of warranty for their Inspirons. Upgrading HDD (Hard Drive), RAM (memory) and installing Video Card would not void your warranty, PSU (Power Supply Unit) could be questionable. Dell generally do not recommend changing CPU (processors) [as soon as you think about changing motherboard, your PC is no longer Dell, unless if it Dell motherboard from another model, but then it is Frankenstein, in this case you can look for help at Tom's harware forum, but not here], however I would present the list of Dell tested processors, and there would be another 2 processors not tested by Dell. Also, you can change the case to make your Inspiron look nicer, or to improve cooling, I would say - it would void warranty as well. Lastly, at the end, I would talk about overclocking, this would not just void any warranties, it would place you at my mercy, since I am the only one left here who done this and still willing to help others, just remember, as soon as you decide to go this path, you might endanger you PC - it could even catch fire and burn your place, so basically you are doing it on your own risk. I am considering, if you overclock Inspiron 570 you are agree with possibilities listed above and would not hold the grudge (or hold responsible) against me or any ohter members of this forum if you become homeless due to the fire caused by overclocking, LOL.

I will start from less invasive and easier parts to more difficult and dangerous.

The guide would consist of the following parts

Part 1. RAM upgrade.

Part 2. Video Card upgrade.

Part 3. PSU upgrade

Part 4. Processor (CPU) upgrade

Part 5. CPU cooling and general cooling in the original case.

Part 6. CPU cooling and general cooling in the larger case.

Part 7. Overclocking.

If I miss something I would come back and fix it, I would try to keep everything in one thread. When I would consider the Guide completed, I would say so.

First things first - information. All Inspiron 570 manuals, next Driver download page easy and Driver download page not so easy.

Prior asking questions, I would assume that you read corresponding manuals, so I don't have to explain you, for an example, how to open your case, well I hope you understand what I mean.

Part 1. RAM upgrade.

According to the official Dell manuals, Inspiron 570 is limited to 8 GB of maximum 1333 MHz memory, however it was found that 16 GB of 1333 MHZ is recognized, faster RAM would slowed down to 1333 MHz. So far no one complained that theirs RAM (manufacturers) were not recognized by Dell. Generally it is recommended to use Crucial, however I used Corsair and did not noticed any problems. Also, try to avoid tall heat spreaders, especially if planning to use tower push-pull fan configuration - push fan may block access to the nearest to CPU cooler RAM slots.

Let Me try to explain.

Unfortunately this is the only picture where you can see the situation.

This is the Diagram with the same color code RAM.

4.  DIMM 1 - most likely could be affected by large CPU Cooler

5. DIMM 2 - may be affected by large CPU Cooler

6. DIMM 3 - not going to be affected by large CPU Cooler

7. DIMM 4 - not going to be affected by large CPU Cooler

This info is from manual

Recommended Memory Configuration

Model

One module

Two modules

Three modules

Four modules

570

DIMM4

DIMM4
DIMM3

DIMM4
DIMM3
DIMM2

DIMM4
DIMM3
DIMM2
DIMM1


Part 2. Video Card upgrade.

So you know, our Inspiron has only 300 watt PSU, so without changing PSU the strongest Video Card upgrade would be Sapphire (recommended) 7750, or cheaper and a bit less powerful version is 6670, for anything above this you would have to upgrade your PSU.

Some people asked if the Video Card and RAM slots would "intercept", the answer is no. However, in order to change or add RAM, Video Card has to be removed to allow RAM holder clips to open, this is approximate picture below, the maximum length of the card is about 12 inches or 30 cm, in this case Video Card would go under HDD so you would have to measure upper clearance .

Watch out for 2 SATA slots next to Video Card - they could be covered by Vcard heatsink, if this is happening you have to use sata angle cables.

I realized that I did not cover much of Video Cards here. So a little more. As you notice I placed MSI 550 TI OC Cyclone for its exceptional cooling ability, this card is very tall, but short, measurements are (L)"x(H)"x(W)", 8.27" x 5.51" x 1.38". I will add more cards here as users will report.

XFX Double D FX-787A-CDFC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card 9.5" x 4.4" x 1.5".

Part 3. PSU upgrade.

This is general guide for PSU recommended by MSI, I would add at least 50 watt to your final decision, however the more the better, some say 100 watt is very good idea, would not argue here. Any standard PSU will fit inside (there could be small bending of some metallic parts of the case required, but nothing major). Just make sure that new PSU has 24 pin or 20+4 pin main MOBO (motherboard) power connector plus 4 pin ancillary power connector, 4 SATA power cables, and at least one 6 pin Video Card PSU connector. It could be modular or not. Modular are much more expensive, with regular you would have to improvise hiding keeping cables out of the way.

Here are a few pictures of regular PSU, so you see that cable management can be a headache.

To my best knowledge the recommended PSU manufactures are XFX, OCZ, Seasonic, Enermax and Corsair, I don't see so many complains about Thermaltake and Antec. Store brands and surprisingly cheap PSU should be avoided if you want stability and assurance that nothing will burn or PSU will last for long time with the same specs over the time.

Next I used Extreme PSU calculator to show that our standard PSU can support 7750 and Phenom 965 together, no PSU upgrade necessary, if no overclock.

System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: Regular - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 C3 3400 MHz Deneb
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR2 SDRAM
Video Card 1: AMD Radeon HD 7750


Regular SATA: 2 HDDs
DVD-RW/DVD+RW Drive: 1 Drive
USB: 4 Devices
Fans
Regular: 2 Fans 92mm;  
LED: 1 Fan 92mm;  
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 90 %
 
Minimum PSU Wattage: 252 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 302 Watts

Inspiron 570 stock PSU is 300 watt and it is known that this number is somewhat underrated, so 302 watt is O.K. Now, PSU was in my Inspiron 570 model was HIPRO HP-P3017F3, below are the specs for anyone to chew.

+5V = 22A, +12V = 18A, +3.3V = 17A, +5V aux = 2A, -12V = 0.8A; Special comment "+5V and +3.3V SHALL NOT EXCEED 160 W".

If you need replacement, you can get it from here new for $38. Not exactly the same, but very similar.

893 Posts

September 3rd, 2015 01:00

Can I use this on my 570.  I need 3 or 4 vram memory.

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I found.

If you upgraded your power supply, why not, it fits.

893 Posts

September 3rd, 2015 01:00

Does it matter how many GB of Ram the 570 can handle? Surely the question is, can it use it? If the answer is no, then you have just paid for and plugged in an extra +8GB or Ram which will just sit there because the mobo will not recognise or be able to use it.

The test of course would be to run a system check and see what turned up. But even if the system registered the extra Ram would that mean the extra memory was actually doing anything?

Because I can tell you, if the 570 can run 16GB Ram and take a quad processor I want to be in the queue for the upgrade! ;)

So far though, we have no proof.

What proof you want? Go to the last post.

Just wanted to to let you know... it supports 16 GB of DDR 3 1600 Mhz with BIOS version 6.

I'm using four sticks of 4 GB Patriot AE38G1609U2K.

And regarding to CPU, don't believe, just go away then.

893 Posts

September 3rd, 2015 03:00

This post is for non believers. My proofs of my Inspiron 570.

USERBENCHMARK just installed it and run it.

Geekbench old test, done long time ago using Geekbench V2

Mine dot is on top


Still don't believe, then leave

512 Posts

September 3rd, 2015 05:00

Was looking for a straightforward upgrade for the 570, this is not it. I may still opt for a solid state HD to improve performance. Otherwise they are currently offering a twin Quad Core 'barebones' Dell Precision 490 with guaranteed 16GB RAM on the Bay, no customised cooling fans or DIY for the desktop - and all for £140 / $300.

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September 3rd, 2015 06:00

Sorry I'm late guys, just figured I'd post some photos of my completed rig

Through in some smaller side-mount fans to boost air flow in the stock case as recommended

I also through two of these larger 120mm fans in the front and on top to pull in air

And a little bit of flava to finish it off ;-)

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September 3rd, 2015 09:00

Patrick what kind of graphics card r u using and r u getting bottlenecks?

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September 3rd, 2015 09:00

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893 Posts

September 3rd, 2015 11:00

Very god job PatrickB93, congratulations and welcome to the CLUB.

A few questions, apart from GPU:

Have you used Phenom 965 BE, if yes, have you overclock it? Your cooling might allow you to do so. Can you provide your temperatures at load, if you done some stress testing, then at worsted settings, please.

What CPU cooler you used, seems like Cooler Master 92mm, model please? Have you removed Dell motherboard backplate to use this cooler backplate, or you attached as is?

Cable organization, if you have only 1 DVD drive, you can stuck PSU excess cables into empty bay, just an advice.

You are lucky one to have some openings on the side panel - good thinking about extra fans there.

You said that you placed 120mm fan to the front and to the top, can you make pictures explaining how? Did you made holes on top, that probably explains use of extra 5.25" bay on top? And the front, there is power switch, fan will cover it, so pictures and some explanations are very important!

And, if you play GAMES, what is the highest comfortable setting you play, if you using for some demanding applications, which one?

Appreciated your input.

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September 3rd, 2015 16:00

It looks like a tx3. 

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September 3rd, 2015 23:00

Thank You! :)

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September 4th, 2015 07:00

I'm using the MSI Computer Corp. Video Graphics Card R9 270 GAMING 2G [Overclocked].Standard temps during gameplays maxed out around like 45C last time I checked. I have not upgraded my processor yet. Had some small lag issues when it came to the amount of active particles in Kerbal Space Station, but that's with me running at maximum settings. Here's the Amazon page: www.amazon.com/.../B00GMGGZQE;redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00

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September 4th, 2015 08:00

Yay! lol Thanks! Well I haven't updated the processor yet, but when installing the fan I removed the default brace using the steps (made a plastic saw using the packaging sped it up a little). Yep the cooler is a Cool Master TX3 and the additional processor push fan is a 92mm Cool Master Blade the side fans are both 80mm Cool Master Blades that pull air into my card and keep it cool during overclocking.I use a two-way molex spit to power my fans found here: www.amazon.com/.../B00CEM0PMA;redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

The 120mm fan  was placed in the front (via concrete screws and plastic washers (some long hollow plastic left over from a swing-set we built) to give it enough distance from the front plate and a left-over 92mm exhaust fan from an older computer was used to pull air from the top.

Here's an inside look:

(My hardrive is mounted vertically on the other side and the fan blows directly on it)

As for the top fan it's located directly on the top beside the power supply:


Here's an inside view:


( In all honesty the original plan called for 2 more 80mm fans to mount in the front around the power button, but in a blind rush I ordered the wrong size lol :P These 120mm fans are real strong and get the job done though :D )

Game-wise I can run Gmod on full settings, Kerbal space program on full (minus the 1000 continuous existing particles I tried. Once I upgrade my processor I'll try again.

Here's a pic of the system at idle (well minus media player blasting dubstep on the 5.1)

   System temps usually reach 45C under heavy strain

   I render videos and music using FL and Vegas Pro too and man this card makes a difference

Thanks again for the mod man, really nice machine now :D

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September 4th, 2015 08:00

You need to upgrade your processor this gpu is too strong on your current processor.  Idk I think it's too strong on the phenom ii x4 965. .  

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September 4th, 2015 19:00

\GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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September 4th, 2015 21:00

Is it worth it to get the 1100t. It will cost me around $150 and on the other hand I have the 965 for half of that price.

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