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October 4th, 2019 01:00

Aurora R4, WiFi and Bluetooth suddenly stopped working

Hello, Both WiFi and Bluetooth on my Aurora R4 suddenly stopped working. I've already tried pretty much everything, powering the PC off, disconnecting the cable from the MIO board and connecting back again but with no success, also tried uninstalling and installing drivers from Dell website but nothing seems to work. Do you think you can help me?
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Many thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Joao Brunheira
 

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October 7th, 2019 08:00


@DammiiT wrote:

1. I will probably just get a new WiFi and Bluetooth dongle.

2. I think it's the Windows 10 update that just made those 2 Drivers (Wifi and Bluetooth) unrecognizable on the system...

Pretty sad that Alienware and Dell know about that (I've seen more posts regarding this issue) and they don't release any fix or update the Wifi and Bluetooth drivers.

3. Thanks for all the help, if you do remember something please let me knew as I would prefer to fix the issue rather than just buy something new.


1. Correct. Separate ones though (radio devices). The recommended Bluetooth radio is linked above.

I'm pretty sure the WiFi radio can be upgraded to a more-conventional and standardized "mini-PCIe module". The Aurora-R4 is a nice tower gaming computer, so I would install that on a normal-sized PCIe Addin card that has full-sized external WiFi antenna ... sticking out the back of the card.

2. Correct.

On my old Aurora-R1, the Alienware (proprietary) Dell 365 Bluetooth module was the ONLY piece of hardware that did not work after my Windows-10 upgrade years ago. I had to disconnect it for the system to work properly.

https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-General-Read-Only/Alienware-Aurora-R1-Windows-10-Pro-Upgrade-Smooth-sailing-so-far/td-p/5512004

Why is explained there.

 3. Dis-connecting it and installing the Kinivo is the solution.

It's fast, easy, in-expensive, and more compatible and reliable than original hardware.

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October 4th, 2019 02:00

Are you running Windows 10, and if so, did you notice WIFI and BT suddenly stop working after a system update?  If so, there was an update released some time ago that effectively borked BT and WIFI.

Do you actually see the hardware listed in device manager? If so, are they active or disabled? 

When you downloaded the updated drivers, did you use your service tag in Dell's website to ensure you got the latest version designated for your particular build?

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October 4th, 2019 03:00

Sorry, forgot to add the following link as Qualcomm doesn't have a generic driver download page: https://www.ath-drivers.eu/atheros-wireless-drivers.html

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October 4th, 2019 03:00

"Are you running Windows 10, and if so, did you notice WIFI and BT suddenly stop working after a system update?  If so, there was an update released some time ago that effectively borked BT and WIFI."

Yes I think it's the above that you mentioned.

Nothing shows up on the device manager.

I've downloaded the updated drivers which the Wifi and Bluetooth are only available for Windows 7, I've been on the MOI and disconnected both cables and connected back again. Tried pretty much everything that I could think off.

From my experience I reckon it has something to do with the drivers/Windows update, but I can't fix it...

 

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October 4th, 2019 03:00

The Windows 10 update that borked wifi and BT usually affects Qualcomm chipsets.  The driver from Alienware may not be the most up to date considering you're on an R4.  I'd suggest going to the Qualcomm driver page directly and downloading the most recent driver there which corrects the issue.

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October 4th, 2019 04:00

Thanks for that, I'll test it out and let you know once I arrive home.

Do you know what Wifi chipset shall I download? Or where can I check that?

From what I could see online it's - "MS3871 Bluetooth and Wireless Combo Card WLAN 802.11b/g/n 1T1R+BT2.1"

What about the Bluetooth, where can I download the updated drivers?

Many thanks for your support.

 

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October 4th, 2019 05:00

MS-3871 is coming back as an MSI based product but with Intel driver support: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005490/boards-and-kits/desktop-boards.html

The wifi and BT drivers are sometimes rolled into one package; other times separate.  Depends on the hardware and software provider.

See the following for potential driver packages for the MS-3871 module:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/59485/Wireless-Networking

Or

http://botpartner.me/msi-ms-3871-40/

There's a good chance that updated drivers that have been validated with Windows 10 1903 don't exist due to age of the product. You may have to try installing various driver packages to see what works by trial and error. Worse case scenario is you'll need to purchase an aftermarket PCI wireless/BT combo card.

Alternately, you can also roll back the previous Windows update to a point when your hardware worked correctly.  That way you have internet connection again. I say this because last week, Microsoft pushed out updated WIFI and BT drivers for various chipsets because of compatibility issues with the latest update. You might get lucky and get updated drivers that way.  Only once they've been updated should you then try to proceed with updating the OS.

 

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October 4th, 2019 06:00

You have to do all the windows updates including the DOTNET updates then re-install the OEM Drivers from DELL not from anywhere else.

Description Download
Intel Chipset Driver
This package provides the Intel Chipset Driver and is supported on Alienware Aurora R4 running the following Windows Operating Systems: Win 8.1 64bit.More details

http://downloads.dell.com/FOLDER01825352M/1/Aurora-R4_Chipset_Driver_6N1P3_WN_9.4.0.1027_A00.EXE

 

 
 

 

 

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October 4th, 2019 07:00

You have to do all the windows updates including the DOTNET updates then re-install the OEM Drivers from DELL not from anywhere else.

@speedstepNot necessarily.

The driver you linked to was only validated as far as Windows 8.1.  The last OS build that affected many people didn't work properly with older device drivers.  In fact, Microsoft requested vendors such as Qualcomm to release updated drivers to ensure compatibility.  What you're suggesting won't help the OP if Dell keeps pushing older driver packages that are incompatible with latest build.

As long as the driver package was written for the actual hardware it's being installed for, it should work 99.9% of the time.

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October 4th, 2019 08:00

"Alternately, you can also roll back the previous Windows update to a point when your hardware worked correctly.  That way you have internet connection again. I say this because last week, Microsoft pushed out updated WIFI and BT drivers for various chipsets because of compatibility issues with the latest update. You might get lucky and get updated drivers that way.  Only once they've been updated should you then try to proceed with updating the OS."

Can't do that, I've been having this issue for a couple of months now but never managed to sort it out, that's why I came here.

I'm going to try the other options that you gave me as soon as I arrive home and than I'll provide a feedback.

Many thanks!

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October 4th, 2019 11:00

I've tested everything that you guys said but unfortunately no Wifi or Bluetooth signal...

This is really annoying, Dell should step up and help as I've seen more people with this problem and no real solution to it..

If anyone remembers something else please do let me know.

Many thanks for the help

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October 4th, 2019 12:00

Download Macrium reflect.  Create a bootable recovery USB stick.  Follow that up with creating an image of your boot drive onto an external media source.

Once done, download a copy of the latest Windows 10 stable build which should be 1903.  Make an ISO of it and reinstall Windows.  Let Win10 download all drivers from that point onwards.  See if all hardware works thereafter. If not, you can always restore to the image you created and start troubleshooting from square one again.

There's always the possibility that your particular wifi+bt hardware is no longer supported by Windows. In that case, you can purchase an external dongle or internal PCI card to take over those duties.

Sorry bud, I wish I could help more. It's hard diagnosing things unless you're actually in front of the machine.

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October 5th, 2019 11:00

Pretty sure one little module (maybe mini-PCIe card) does both of those.

If it is not showing in Device Manager ... it is normally either
- Not connected properly
- Bad/Defective

Yes, they are inexpensive and they have been known to go bad eventually.

Personally, if I was unable to replace with same part, then I would just:
- Used wired ethernet
- Get a USB-dongle for BlueTooth 4.0 (newer radio-tech, very compatible, antenna now external) . 

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October 7th, 2019 01:00

I will probably just get a new WiFi and Bluetooth dongle.

I think it's the Windows 10 update that just made those 2 Drivers (Wifi and Bluetooth) unrecognisable on the system...

Pretty sad that Alienware and Dell know about that (I've seen more posts regarding this issue) and they don't release any fix or update the Wifi and Bluetooth drivers.

Thanks for all the help, if you do remember something please let me knew as I would prefer to fix the issue rather than just buy something new.

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